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Takeover Tuesday Rohan McDonald

Dash animator, Bella Alfonsi interviewed animator, illustrator, and director, Rohan McDonald and we’ve got the scoop on it all!

Q&A with Rohan McDonald.

Read time: 5min

Bella Alfonsi:

Rohan! Thanks so much for being a part of our Tuesday Takeover series. For those who are unfamiliar with you or your work, please tell us a bit about yourself and what you do!

Rohan McDonald:

Thank you all for having me!

I’m an animator, illustrator, and director based in Boston, MA, USA. I create work from a 2D hand drawn perspective, primarily focusing on cel animation. I also love working with printed media and reading independent and self published comics. Beyond that, I enjoy rock climbing with my fiance, tinkering with music production and composition (occasionally), and repeatedly watching the Lord of the Rings behind the scenes documentaries.

Bella Alfonsi:

What inspired you to get into the motion design world?

Rohan McDonald:

I didn’t really understand that motion design was an option for me until sophomore year of college. I went to the School of the Art Institute of Chicago (SAIC) thinking I would be some combination of a painter and editorial illustrator. It became apparent rather quickly that I wasn’t a painter, at least in a fine art setting. In my first few years of school I felt like I had something to prove, so every piece would be about trying to impress people or show off. My painting professor at the time even went so far as to say “Rohan, you’re a really nice guy, but this is terrible.” After that righteous burn, I reconsidered what I was interested in, and came to the conclusion that I just love drawing. So I signed up for Intro to hand drawn animation, which was entirely on paper and entirely about drawing. I loved film and TV and also did some theater as a kid, so it was the perfect combination of acting, drawing, and film for me.

After that class, I wanted more digital animation skills. That’s when I got a crash course in photoshop, After Effects, and how to bring your hand-drawn paper work into digital space. The work we watched in that class brought me closer and closer to motion design as a future career. I would talk to professors outside of class about how to achieve certain looks I was going for and what to watch. So I sought out things like “Late Night Work Club,” where I saw films from artists like Nicolas Menard, Charles Huettner, and Alex Grigg. Then people like Sophie Koko Gate, Caitlin McCarthy and “Parallel Teeth,” appeared on my radar. All of these artists showed me that there was a really intriguing mix of graphic design, print media aesthetics, and cel animation to experiment with. I remember just feeling excited to get out into that world, even just to make commercial work, because I could play.

I then cold emailed every studio/agency in Chicago that created work in the motion design space. I sent over a short 30s reel in search of an internship, a part time job, anything really. I got a fair amount of responses! At the time that was surprising, but the Chicago motion design community is really small, tight knit, and welcoming.

I ended up at Demo Duck as an intern. After my internship, I worked part time at Demo Duck until I graduated. Then Demo Duck hired me full time as a junior art director! I spent the next 3 and a half years at Demo Duck and learned so much on the job, eventually being promoted to Art Director. It was like going to grad school, but without the debt. I really got to put in the time and see Demo Duck grow as a company, in addition to seeing the industry grow and thrive.

*“Thanks for Asking” project with Demo Duck*

Bella Alfonsi:

Do you have any kind of formal training or are you completely self taught?

Rohan McDonald:

This is a hard one. I definitely have formal training in cel animation and some in drawing overall. But when it comes to graphic design, and digital animation, I learned through a mix of more general SAIC courses, YouTube tutorials, and asking people how they did things. In addition to my own painstaking trial and error. However, I owe a lot to my SAIC professors Joel Benjamin, Shelley Dodson, Matt Marsden, and Jim Trainor, who taught me how to think about film and motion media overall.

When it comes to more soft skills (client communication, organization, timelines + budgeting) and motion design specific stuff, I really learned through immersion. Through Demo duck, I got to go to conferences like Blend and Comotion, in addition to working with amazing freelancers like Zak Tietjen, Milton and Valeria from Notreal, and Martiniano Garcia Cornejo from Fu Imagery (to name a few). I also got to work with the best in house team of producers, art directors, creative directors, and writers, all of whom taught me so much and supported my independent work and my career growth. It was a working experience that really spoiled me in the best way, and gave me lifelong friendships.

Bella Alfonsi:

As someone who does both animation and illustration/design, do you prefer to do one over the other and why?

Rohan McDonald:

It really depends! I go through waves. Sometimes I’m really tired of animation and sometimes I’m tired of design.

It also depends on the style I’m working with. For certain styles, I like doing more design and illustration rather than motion, and for other styles I like taking more ownership of the entire pipeline. It also depends on the structure of the project: Am I going through an agency, through another director/studio, or is it direct to client? That being said, I love the pre-pro development side of things. And that’s often times a design + motion test kind of process.

But at a distance, I go back to just wanting to draw, in whatever form that takes.

Bella Alfonsi:

Animating by hand is a great way to fully understand the principles of animation and have complete control over what you’re creating. Do you think it’s important that all animators know how to do it the good ol’ fashioned way (by hand)?

Rohan McDonald:

Another hard one! Before I answer this fully, I have a hot take: not all of the 12 traditional animation principles have to be your bible (side note: the “Appeal” principle really frustrates me and feels like an unhelpful and subjective Richard Williams-ism). I know, I know, controversial.

I think animation now is so diverse, experimental, and often times technology driven, to the point where you can accomplish a lot in motion design without having the hand drawn animation background. That being said, you need to know how to think about animation and understand why something might not be working. That’s where an awareness of traditional animation principles comes into play.

So let’s say your simple mograph match cut transition is looking abrupt and startling. Having awareness of traditional animation ideas like anticipation, follow through, and timing will help you tweak that speed graph or adjust the distance between those keyframes to smooth it out. So no, I don’t think people need to know how to hand-draw animation, but knowing the thinking behind the old ways will make you a strong animation warrior.

Bella Alfonsi:

I’m sure it’s hard to pick, but do you have a favorite project you’ve worked on?

Rohan McDonald:

I’ve gotten to be part of a lot of great projects in the past few years. One that stands out to me is a project from early 2021, which was a really simple but “vibey” music video for Liam Kazar’s song “Nothing To You.” I had a lot of freedom and I didn’t plan a lot of things out. And interestingly enough, it wasn’t a cel animated project. I just jumped into After Effects with a few rough designs and created tons of loops. Working with that type of improvisation is really fun and low pressure. I’m excited to do more of that in my personal work.

*Frame from Liam Kazar’s song “Nothing To You” music video.*

Bella Alfonsi:

Your portfolio is full of so many different art styles-from simple shapes with minimal color to more illustrative with lots of bright colors-do you have a favorite style to work in?

Rohan McDonald:

It’s been hard for me to focus on any particular style, or set of tools to work with. I love trying out a style and then trying to add something new, or just explore how I do it specifically. That being said, I usually start off with a line-based pen sketch, so I tend to gravitate towards a line-based illustrative style.

I think there’s a frustrating notion that you have to “find your style” to get work or be noticed as an illustrator and animator. And to some extent that is true. But I have another hot take here: having a style doesn’t have to mean doing the same type of thing over and over again. It can be finding out how your specific perspective translates to different mediums, color palettes, and tools. While algorithms love consistency, oftentimes you can recognize someone’s creative voice no matter what medium they’re in, as long as they’ve experimented and cultivated that voice (which I still struggle with sometimes).

Bella Alfonsi:

What’s the workflow like for a freelance director? Are there any big challenges you’ve had to overcome?

Rohan McDonald:

I’ve been part time freelancing for a while, but 2022 was my first year as a full time freelancer, so there were a ton of challenges!

To be honest, my biggest challenges have been messaging/making sure people understand my offerings while balancing direction projects vs. projects with more specific roles (i.e. cel animator, AE animator, storyboard artist, illustrator). I think this is where my previous point about style becomes relevant. I do a lot of different things, and so I have a lot of different types of projects come along, so I have to plan my time in a way that allows me to flex all those different muscles effectively. Without that stylistic focus, sometimes my freelance workflow has to be re-thought and adapted. And that’s rewarding, but difficult!

Bella Alfonsi:

“Rooms” is a really fun piece and I love the unique take on connecting mental space with physical space. I see that it’s also been featured on Motionographer, Aeon Magazine, Good Moves, and on Vimeo’s Staff Pick (congrats!!). Can you tell us a bit more about this one and how it came to be?

Rohan McDonald:

Thank you! “Rooms” started out as a series of risograph printed artbooks that I created with my college roommates Lucas Reif and Austin White, who are both amazing designers and collaborators. They had been working through “ShelfShelf,” a small publishing collective. I don’t remember who had the idea to interview people about their spaces, but we all ran with it and conducted our own interviews with family and friends. Lucas and Austin handled the type design, layout, and printing. Then I did all the illustration, and helped with file set up and assembly. We really love the way they turned out and I thought there was a film in there as well. The illustrations were so fun to draw and I thought it would be even more fun to make them move. This was around 2018.

Cut to the pandemic and everyone is experiencing some awareness of physical space and mental space. Everyone remembers how it felt. I used that time to truly investigate how this film could work and what narratives I could find in common between interviewees. I combed through all of our audio, and what started off as a ten minute film was edited down to around two minutes (dodged a bullet there).

The biggest production challenge was creating a workflow that didn’t feel stale or forced. I was working full time at home and it was difficult to find the intrigue and joy in creative work sometimes, especially when going from one screen to another. So I decided to do two things differently: Use rough animator on my iPad for all the rough animation, and delve into Animate CC, a software I hadn’t used a ton at that point. Rough animator allowed me to work more spontaneously and Animate CC gave me clean lines and quick fills that I could apply subtle effects to in AE. Changing up my process really worked out this time around, and Rooms came together with the help of two additional animators (Sofia Diaz, Dena Springer) and a sound designer/composer (Limes and Cherries).

I’m very happy I took my time with it, and I learned a lot. Although I’m glad my girlfriend at the time (now fiancé) pushed me to finish it.

Bella Alfonsi:

Any advice/final takeaways?

Rohan McDonald:

There are always multiple ways to do something, especially in animation. Not everyone needs the perfect AE script or the latest plugin to make things work. Just explore and find the way that you like to do things! And I’m also still trying to figure out how I do things. That will be a lifelong pursuit!

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Takeover Tuesday Scott Hoch

An interview with Scott Hoch: a freelance motion designer from Detroit, Michigan.

Q&A with Scott Hoch.

Read time: 5min

Matea Losenegger:

Hi Scott! Can you introduce yourself and explain what you do?

Scott Hoch:

Howdy! Thanks for having me, I’m stoked to be here. My name is Scott, I’m a freelance motion designer from Detroit, Michigan. I also teach digital animation part time at my alma mater, College for Creative Studies (CCS). I like birds, movies, coffee, and making pixels move on screens. Lately I’ve been really thinking about my identity as an artist and where I want to go from here. It’s the beginning of the year so it’s a time of self reflection. I'd say you reaching out to me was good timing because I wanna talk about it!

Matea Losenegger:

What sparked your interest in design and animation?

Scott Hoch:

As long as I can remember I’ve loved drawing and making people smile. I drew all through elementary school, designed t-shirts for my friends' screamo bands in high school, and after that I got an animation degree from CCS. My ambitions were never really focused, I only knew I wanted to do creative work, make a decent living, and make others happy. At one point in college I MAYBE thought I could move to LA, work in TV or feature animation as an artist. Maybe even direct movies. It turns out LA is super competitive and the housing market is a complete joke. If I didn't get a job after graduation I'd be completely screwed but I did not want to move across the country away from my family to MAYBE get a job that hardly covers rent not to mention my debt. I needed to find a different path.

It was around this time that I was introduced to both After Effects and the Detroit Mograph community. Not only was I hooked on this program that could seemingly make magic happen at the push of a button; there was a whole industry outside my front door welcoming me with open arms. There really is something special about a bunch of Midwestern nerds all into the same nerdy shit as you. I instantly felt like I belonged. Soon after I graduated I got an internship as a motion designer for a mortgage company where I learned the ins and outs of the studio system. Two years later, Julie Craft convinced me (and the rest of Boxfort basically) to quit my job and go freelance.

I'm so happy that I didn't have to move away from home to be an animator. Detroit has such a unique identity that is a part of me; I don't know if I’d fit in anywhere else. It’s the perfect sized city, not too big, not too small and there’s lots of nature in the area too! There are so many more artists and creative folks here than anyone would guess because that part isn’t talked about nearly as much in the news. Heck, I didn’t even know it until I was in college. I love Detroit, I could go all day but I’ll leave it at that. Come visit!

Matea Losenegger:

What’s it like being a part of an animation collective like Boxfort and how often do you all get to collaborate?

Scott Hoch:

It’s the BEST! At its core Boxfort is just a coworking space that a group of friends share so we don’t go crazy working from home all the time. Though, to be honest, I only go in a few times a week. One of my goals this year is to go more often regardless of if I’m booked or not. It’s a wonderful space with cool vibes, hacky sack, movie nights and, yes, there is LaCroix in the fridge. As far as collaboration we all work on such different projects it’s not common that we collaborate on client projects. Sometimes 2 or 3 of us can work together on a larger project but we’ve never truly staffed up to work on a big campaign like a studio would. I think we all prefer being independent. I also think we prefer putting our collaborative potential into short films and music videos. Deep down we’re all storytellers and we love working together to make our ideas a reality. I know all of us at Boxfort are itching to produce more shorts this year so stay tuned!

Matea Losenegger:

You have a slick, succinct reel with a strong intro and outro. What was the thought process behind it and what would you say makes a compelling reel overall?

Scott Hoch:

Maybe an obvious answer but thanks to the internet age everyone’s attention span has been completely obliterated. People can process information really really fast these days which means they can also get bored really fast. I read somewhere that art directors will know within 15 seconds of a reel if they’re going to hire someone. I have no idea if that’s true but why risk it? The intro and outro is one of my happy places. I think everyone should keep a list of their most favorite places and memories. Whenever I have trouble drawing something I just think of clouds, trees, water, sand, lots of stuff! A lot of my art is very intuitive, my hand takes me where my heart wants to go. I love the beach, I love the way it makes me feel. When people watch my reel I want them to be sucked in by the cool ocean breeze and calm waves right before I bombard them with crazy visuals. Then as soon as the reel is really getting you amped up it’s over and we’re looking at a nice pretty wave again. You gotta ease in and ease out amirite?

Matea Losenegger:

I really love the use of color across your portfolio. What is your strategy in creating a successful palette?

Scott Hoch:

There are tons of sites that will show color palettes from different movies or from nature that you can use and I think over time I’ve gotten a better sense for making my own. Coolors.co is a really great site to generate quick palettes that work well together. I'm also fortunate to work with a lot of incredible illustrators that are much better with color than I am. Perhaps from animating their designs I've gotten better at color from osmosis. Honestly I never thought of myself as having good colors so I really appreciate you saying that!

Matea Losenegger:

Is there a particular type of project you like to work on?

Scott Hoch:

Any project where I can collaborate with kind talented people are the ones I like best. Seeing others bring their A game inspires me to do my best. It also helps when my values align with the mission of the company I’m working for. Beggars can’t be choosers in the freelance world but I definitely feel better when I believe the work I’m doing is helping people. I’ve been fortunate to provide animation services to some non profits in the area and would love to do more “good” work with the skills I have.

Matea Losenegger:

Who would be your dream client or artist to collaborate with?

Scott Hoch:

As an avid birder I would do anything to work with the National Audubon Society. Conservation is a very important cause to me and I would be over the moon if any of my work someday helps with wildlife conservation efforts. Lower down the list but still big dream clients for me would be any climate change organizations, any local Detroit businesses or even small coffee brands. So if any Detroit coffee shops that do charity work for birds by tackling climate change are reading this, I’m your guy.

*Shot from Scott’s Abstract Waving Loops*

Matea Losenegger:

As a seasoned freelancer, what are some of the challenges and benefits that come along with the lifestyle?

Scott Hoch:

I'm sure you've heard this a thousand times but the biggest benefit of freelance can also be its biggest challenge. You are your own boss. It's up to you to keep yourself busy working on your business both on the clock and off. Your schedule is more flexible but you're constantly thinking about your next gig, your taxes, networking, healthcare, retirement, death, taxes, marketing yourself, editing that reel you'll never finish, social media, taxes, etc etc etc. It's a good gig if you've up for the challenge but it's not for everyone. I love being freelance but I'm not sure what the end game is and can see myself going staff one day if the stars align.

Matea Losenegger:

Do you have any advice for aspiring creatives or freelancers out there?

Scott Hoch:

I think art can be an addiction much like any passion. When you're young you're filled with so much anxious energy to create as much work as possible to improve and hopefully get a job. It's good to light a fire under you for a while. But someday that light is going to burn you and if you're not careful it could completely engulf you. Take breaks. Go on trips. Spend time with your loved ones. Art isn't worth sacrificing your health for. I tell my students this all the time but the immense pressure they’re put under, the greatness we expect from them, it’s no wonder why so many artists are nervous wrecks.

In this modern world we live in, everything has been commoditized and our eyeballs are currency. Companies are competing to get the most eyeballs to watch their thing for 6 to 30 seconds before they click or swipe away. I keep saying I’m an artist, that we are artists but that isn’t true. We are content creators. Just throwin’ more chum into the garbage disposal that is the internet. I’ve spent so much of my time in recent years fixing my relationship with art. How does one create something worth anything in a world that’s on fire? What’s the point? And don’t even get me STARTED on AI art.

Clearly I have a ways to go but I feel hopeful for the future somehow. Maybe the point is to defiantly do what makes you happy against all odds. There is still a lot of beauty out there in the world and I want to capture it. Life moves pretty fast. If you don’t stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it. I came up with that quote, don't look it up.

Matea Losenegger:

What does 2023 look like for you? Are there any projects you’re excited about?

Scott Hoch:

My schedule is actually wide open right now as far as client work is concerned (cough cough hit me up). I think 2023 is going to be a big year of growth for me. The last few years I’ve felt a bit stagnant with my personal art (see above, re: world on fire) but I’ve been taking some online courses and drawing in my sketchbook more lately. Turns out art IS still fun! I really want to add more storytelling to my work like a concept artist would. I want to play with lighting and color and value. Heck, maybe I’ll take up gouache. I feel like I’m finally ready to open the door to growth and the world feels wide open to me again. We’re always told to stay curious and enjoy ourselves but it’s easier said than done. Thank you again so much for reaching out to me and giving me the opportunity to chat! I hope everyone has a great 2023!

Matea Losenegger:

This was great! Thanks, Scott.

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Takeover Tuesday Abbie Bacilla

An interview with Abbie Bacilla: 2D and 3D motion designer and illustrator.

Q&A with Abbie Bacilla.

Read time: 5min

Matea Losenegger:

Thank you for taking part in our Tuesday Takeover series! Can you give us a little insight into you and your work?

Abbie Bacilla:

Thank Y’ALL for considering me for Tuesday Takeover! My name is Abbie Bacilla, I’m a 2D and 3D motion designer and illustrator. I work primarily in tech, but love to do character animation on the side.

Matea Losenegger:

What made you pursue design and animation as a career?

Abbie Bacilla:

Animation was always something I wanted to pursue; I wanted to work for Cartoon Network or Disney when I was in high school, but CalArts was (and is) way too expensive. Instead, I went to a small liberal arts college and shifted to graphic design, because I thought it would lead to more jobs. While in college, I happened upon a night class for motion design. My professor gave me the impression that it was way easier and faster than frame-by-frame animation, so I gave it a shot. I ended up liking it so much, I shifted my whole career to it!

*Excerpt from How Conservatives Created Cancel Culture #shorts*

Matea Losenegger:

What is it like to work at Frame.io on a platform that’s growing so fast within our industry?

Abbie Bacilla:

It’s incredibly exciting to work for a product that other motion designers use. It’s the reason I wanted to work for Frame.io in the first place – it’s a great product with great people working on it! I’ve been at Frame for almost five years, and I’ve had the privilege to watch the company grow from under 100 to over 500. It’s a unique situation for sure, and made me learn a lot of motion techniques and soft skills very quickly. I highly recommend working in a small in-house team at least once; it’s very rewarding to build a brand and make content with a tight-knit group of creatives.

Matea Losenegger:

How would you describe your art style and what was the path that brought you to it?

Abbie Bacilla:

I like to keep my Frame.io and personal art styles separate. My Frame.io “art style” is more about the motion; we like to look at the minimalist typography trends that other tech and film brands are achieving and apply it to our own brand voice. My personal art style stays in the realm of round, colorful and expressive characters, mainly in 2D but sometimes in 3D. I love stretching and exaggerating emotions with a character’s face and body language.

*Playing Cards - character loosely based off of King Henry VIII & Anne Boleyn*

Matea Losenegger:

The characters you create are so fun and playful. What is your process for bringing them to life?

Abbie Bacilla:

In the beginning, LOTS of pinterest boards and instagram bookmarks. I try to actively seek inspiration rather than wait for it to jump in my lap. I’m mainly inspired by runway fashion, drag, video games, cartoons, and my own life experiences. When I’m sketching, it’s really important for me to streamline the character’s shape language and cut unnecessary detail. In the future I’d like to experiment with more geometric, sharp character designs, rather than my usual bubbly style.

Matea Losenegger:

Do any of your projects stand out as a favorite?

Abbie Bacilla:

My short film that I launched in October, Spacepup, is my favorite so far! It was originally created for the anthology series Things Took a Turn, but I’ve submitted it to a multitude of festivals in New York. I’m hoping it’ll get selected for at least one, so I’ll be able to watch it on a big screen with my best friends in 2023.

Matea Losenegger:

What was one of your most challenging assignments?

Abbie Bacilla:

The first fully-3D launch video I made, Frame.io’s iPad app in 2019. I had a very rudimentary knowledge of Cinema4D at the time, and was limited to Arnold as a third party renderer since I only had an iMac Pro to work with. I was put in charge of the story and boards, so I had to partially direct all the live action bits. I learned a lot from creating that video, and it gave me a taste of what a director role would look like!

Matea Losenegger:

I see you’re a four-time School of Motion alumni and have a wide skill set in 2D and 3D. Are there any areas in animation that you haven’t explored yet or would like to?

Abbie Bacilla:

There are too many things to learn! I know every motion designer is saying this, but I’m going to try and dive deeper into Blender. I follow a lot of Blender artists on Twitter and they’ve inspired me greatly. Other than that, I’m at a point in my career where I need to double down and expand/improve what I can do with Cinema4D and After Effects. Cinema4D is just a rabbit hole of possibilities. I just need the right project to inspire me to learn more!

Matea Losenegger:

On your site you mention that some of your hobbies include video games and drag shows. Have you found any inspiration from those things for your work?

Abbie Bacilla:

Yes, absolutely! There are so many creative AAA and indie games that inspire me all the time – my latest favorites have been Pokemon Scarlet/Violet, Hades, and Cult of the Lamb. I’d love to create 2D character animations and assets for an indie game someday, ideally for a side-scroller like Cuphead or a fighting game like Skullgirls.

As for drag, it’s not the most obvious source of inspiration for motion design, but that’s why I love it! Drag is great inspiration in terms of color palettes, shape language, visual storytelling, comedic timing and motion in general. I’m a queer artist living in NYC, so I have an abundance of local drag I can go see. But I also watch shows like Rupaul’s Drag Race and Dragula – they’ve really popularized the art form and made it more accessible. Highly recommend both shows as well as supporting the local drag in your area!

Matea Losenegger:

What does 2023 look like for you? Are there any projects or upcoming endeavors you’re excited about?

Abbie Bacilla:

I’m collaborating with a friend on a character-heavy short, which I’m very excited for. Other than that, I haven’t consistently kept up with my drawing since covid started. I think 2023 will be the year I develop my visual style and start posting illustrations and 3D renders more.

Matea Losenegger:

What advice would you give to aspiring creatives?

Abbie Bacilla:

This is a common one, but I would find a hobby or source of joy outside of motion that can inspire your work. For example, my latest short film was inspired by my dog Ernie. Not that I’m saying to get a dog – it’s a big responsibility and it’s not for everyone – but it could be pottery, a sport, a tabletop game, book club, anything that will get you outside your home and office and talking to people!

Matea Losenegger:

Thanks so much, Abbie! This was a great chat.

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Takeover Tuesday Zak Tietjen

An interview with Zak Tietjen: an animator & illustrator/designer living out in Columbus, Ohio.

Q&A with Zak Tietjen.

Read time: 5min

Mack Garrison:

Zak! I've been lucky enough to work with you over the years, but for those that don't know who you are, tell us a bit about yourself.

Zak Tietjen:

Thanks so much for having me! I’ve really enjoyed reading other interviews of people I’ve admired & some friends of mine.

I’m an animator & illustrator/designer living out in Columbus, Ohio. I love working on a variety of projects from 2D shape animation to cel animated characters and all the way to realistic 3D animation. I have a wife, 2 little girls and 2 dogs who I love spending my free time with at playgrounds, hiking, or cooking up some new recipes.

Mack Garrison:

As more and more folks choose to live and work in smaller markets, tell us a bit about how you were able to build a successful freelance career in Ohio.

Zak Tietjen:

Honestly, I feel like I sort of stumbled into it. I’ve been freelancing for about 6 or so years now and thankfully I’ve been able to build up a lot of connections outside of Ohio. It started slow but it was very important to me to build up trust with any studios/agencies/clients that I worked with. Never miss a deadline, always communicate when you need more time or don’t know a certain skill/technique (but willing to learn), and try to meet or exceed expectations for the project. And honestly, just don’t be a jerk haha. These are all things that several people before me have said, but following those loose guidelines is what I think allowed me to thrive working remotely, before the pandemic made it more common. After doing that enough, you start to get good word-of-mouth. Friends would recommend me for projects or studios would come back because they know I’ll make it easier for them by working hard and hitting deadlines.

*Marvel Studios’ Moon Knight - Main On End Title Sequence.*

Mack Garrison:

Let's jump into style. How would you describe your aesthetic and your work?

Zak Tietjen:

Oof, that’s a tough one. I’ve been told that I have a certain style but I guess I don’t really see it that way. Admittedly, I love dabbling in a bunch of different styles but I think what people see as a through line is how I animate. I love bringing some of my humor into my character work, when possible. My wife won’t admit I’m funny, so I like to use my work as an outlet. I also really love a nice blend of styles, since that reflects a bit of my skillset. When there’s a lovely blend of 3D & 2D (heck, throw collage in there too!), that’s what excites me! I get bored staying within the same style and I like to jump around. It might also be a bit of envy (or overconfidence haha) when I see artists I admire creating amazing work in other styles and I think to myself “Oh! I want to try that!”.

Mack Garrison:

What are some of your favorite types of projects to work on? Do you have a favorite project from over the years?

Zak Tietjen:

What I love about this industry is that there is such a massive variety of mediums that we can work in. I could be working on some fun cel animation and brush up on my drawing skills, or finding new ways to keyframe some bouncy shapes in After Effects. Then I’ll get tactile and step away from the computer to explore some collage style animation, or rig up some goofy 2D characters. And there are so many opportunities that excite me. The majority of my work is what I’d consider ads, but I’ve also done title sequences, billboards in Times Square, UI animation for tech conferences and graphics for large sports stadiums. Because I’m able to hop around a lot, I think that helps keep each project interesting.

A couple times a year I’m asked to give a talk to the seniors at my alma mater Bowling Green State University and I always try to explain to them that working in this industry doesn’t have to feel like you’re doing “soul-sucking ad work”. I try to find opportunities in every project to do something I consider fun. Whether that’s taking a 2D illustration and giving it a bit of faux 3D in After Effects or pushing the creative a little bit beyond what’s expected. This also brings it back to building that trust and trying to exceed expectations, when possible. Each project presents its own challenges, and at my core, I’m a problem-solver. It’s fun for me to break down a challenging shot and see how we can break it down into smaller actions.

Mack Garrison:

Who are some artists and studios that really inspired you?

Zak Tietjen:

That’s always a tough question to keep concise haha. I find inspiration from so many things and artists, but I’ll try to avoid the usual freelancers & studios that everyone is familiar with. Nocky Dinh is an amazing artist who I had the pleasure of working on Hawkeye with and I was blown away by her talent. She can seemingly crush both 2D & 3D styles. Continuing the trend of title design, Arisu Kashiwagi was another amazing artist who I found on Instagram and I was surprised how much of her work I already had seen & loved. And then Petrick is a collective I believe in Germany, but they’re chock-full of absolutely stellar designers & animators. Everytime they release something online I’m blown away by the wonderful blend of styles and humor. And you know I’m a sucker for people who blend multiple styles together.

*Marvel Studios’ Hawkeye - Main On End Title Sequence*

Mack Garrison:

What are some things folks should consider before they go freelance?

Zak Tietjen:

For a lot of people, going freelance straight out of college sounds both appealing and terrifying haha. I know it’s obvious, but you’re all on your own. You will often need to communicate directly with clients without the buffer of a studio, so you want to make sure you have good communication skills. For me, I think it helps to have worked in a studio for a few years so that you have an understanding of the full process, from producers to art directors and sound mixers. And one of the bigger tasks that often deters people from freelance is time & money management. If you have a partner or even children, those are big factors. My kids are eating machines, I need to make sure I’m planning our finances out months in advance.

It’s great to work for yourself and build your own schedule but you’re solely responsible for everything. Sometimes getting a nice check at the end of a project, it’s tempting to go get that new gadget in your amazon wishlist, but you have to plan ahead and make sure you have funds set aside for taxes as well. I could go on and on about all of the boring ‘adult things’ you should consider before freelance (I didn’t even talk about insurance or retirement!) but I’ll spare everyone haha.

Mack Garrison:

What's the hardest part of working for yourself and what's the best part?

Zak Tietjen:

I know it’s not for everyone, but I actually really enjoy working from home. I like being able to decide my own schedule. Over the years, I’ve begrudgingly forced myself to be a morning person, so I really enjoy waking up early and starting on work for a couple of hours before the kids wake up, and then spending time with them before school. This also allows me some time to go to the gym, which I think really helps fight off that feeling of sitting at a computer all day.

I’m also the chef in the house and we have a lot of mouths to feed, so if I’m ahead on my work, it’s nice that I can start prepping for dinner or run to the grocery store.

On the other hand, being solely responsible for your work & income can be a bit daunting. Thankfully, I feel like I’ve made enough friends and have a good system of keeping track of my invoices & upcoming projects that it’s rarely an issue, but occasionally there’s still that self-doubt in my mind that’s asking “What if I never get hired again?”. I’ve always been someone who tries to plan ahead for the future so having a career that’s constantly uncertain can be worrisome, but I feel like I’ve been able to figure out my own ways of staying organized and allowing some wiggle-room for uncertainty.

Mack Garrison:

For any studios or agencies reading this post, what's the number one takeaway they should know when booking a freelancer?

Zak Tietjen:

I’m not really sure I have any advice for just studios or agencies, but I do usually try to approach working relationships like friendships. We’ve all had a friend who didn’t treat you the same as you treated them. Maybe you’re the one who always paid for food or you helped them move into their new place but they can’t help you when you need it. So I try to see things from both sides.

I’ve been fortunate enough to build up some nice relationships with studios who hire me often and when they do something kind for me, I’m definitely going to remember that and return the favor. Let’s say it’s 7pm on a Friday and the client has some easy last-minute feedback (easy being a keyword haha). If I’m at home, I don’t mind quickly changing that for the studio because one day my kids will be home sick from school and I’ll have a slow day or maybe I need to take my dog to the vet, etc.

Showing kindness or understanding in a working relationship goes a long way, and if you don’t take advantage of it (freelancers or studios & agencies), I think the output of work is likely to improve, in my experience.

Mack Garrison:

What are you most excited about with the future of Motion Design?

Zak Tietjen:

A bit of projecting here, I’m sure, but I’m super excited for all of the motion dads & moms! Relatively speaking, I’m still pretty young in this industry (the peppered gray in my hair would disagree), so I’m always wondering what kind of longevity I have as a freelance animator/designer. From my experience, typically you would hustle in a big city (L.A., New York, etc.) and either become a Creative/Art Director, or open your own studio and eventually you’d find your way to retirement.

Well, things seem to be changing now. You no longer have to live in those big cities to get work or grow as an artist and some people are just rocking it as amazing freelancers. That and now people being more open about a healthier work/life balance, and many are relocating and starting families. I’m just excited to see where that takes us as an industry. Will I still be jamming as a 60 year old freelance animator? (Can you throw my face through one of those aging filters please haha)

Mack Garrison:

Anything else you'd like to share with our readers?

Zak Tietjen:

This industry can feel so large and daunting but all takes is a simple trip out to a conference (Dash Bash Vol. 2, anyone?) to make it all feel small again. There are so many wonderful and kind people that I constantly bump into both online and at meet-ups, and I’m incredibly grateful for all of the friends I’ve made. There’s nothing better than seeing another friend pop-up on a kick-off call, on the 1st day of a long booking.

By nature I’m an introverted person, but I extremely value the friends and connections I’ve made along the way. So if you haven’t tried to put yourself out there and go to some in-person meetups, I highly recommend it!

Mack Garrison:

Thanks so much, Zak! This was a great chat and I know a lot of folks will be happy to have your insight. And see you at the Bash this July!

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Takeover Tuesday Diogo Rosa

An interview with Diogo Rosa: Portuguese graphic designer and creative director.

Q&A with Diogo Rosa.

Read time: 5min

Mack Garrison:

Thanks for participating in our Tuesday Takeover, Diogo. For those that are unfamiliar with you and your work, can you tell us a bit about yourself?

Diogo Rosa:

I am a Portuguese graphic designer and creative director who collects a vast and varied amount of ambitions and passions. I love cinema, design, art, food and I recently discovered that I like to travel more than I thought I would.

The idea of being able to experience other cultures and other realities beyond my own is something that fascinates me.

I have been working as a freelancer for the past 7 years now, which allows me to travel while I work. I started my career while I was still in the second year of my design degree at the University of Aveiro. Since then I have worked with numerous brands, studios, and companies. I have had the privilege of working on significant projects that effectively and actively want to create a positive impact on people and society.

*Snapshot from Diogo’s “Spice Trade” project.*

Mack Garrison:

You have a wonderful blend of whimsical characters to more graphic looks. How did you develop such a wide range of styles?

Diogo Rosa:

I'm not fascinated by the idea of doing the same thing over and over again, some people say that sometimes my head can be a little chaotic and complex, but in my opinion, it's just a wide range of ideas coming at the same time, and a huge desire to put them all into practice. I get bored easily, so I find tools to ensure that doesn't happen. That ended up defining a little bit of what I do professionally. I'm always pushing my limits to learn and do new and different things, and when that happens I want to see that reflected in my work.

*Character from Diogo’s “O Rosa” project..*

Mack Garrison:

What are your favorite types of projects to work on?

Diogo Rosa:

Those that allow me to tell stories. Since I was a kid I always loved the idea of storytelling. These stories can be found in many different forms: in movies, visual identities, logos, posters, illustrations... the list is endless.

Mack Garrison:

It's always hard to choose one piece, but is there a project that you're especially proud of?

Diogo Rosa:

By the time I finish a project, it is not difficult to choose, however, this decision is ephemeral. Since progress is my central goal, I strive to make the next piece better than the last. They all tell different stories and represent different contexts. By this I mean, that right now my piece could be one, but tomorrow it could be another. But, if I had to choose only one, it would be the one I did not do in a professional context, but as an escape from everyday routine, almost like an illustrated diary of my ambitions, anxieties, and desires. This project would be "O Rosa".

Mack Garrison:

How did you initially get into design and illustration? Who were the folks that inspired you?

Diogo Rosa:

I remember my parents saying that I wanted to be a chef when I was a kid, yet every time they looked at me, I was drawing, painting, or building something. I don't see it so much as a premeditated choice, but something that happened naturally and organically. Ignoring the cliche, I assume that everything that surrounds me is a reason for inspiration. However, my most recent passion for traveling around the world has acted as a base for many of my new projects.

Mack Garrison:

Could you tell us a bit about your process? How do you try to tackle creative problems?

Diogo Rosa:

There isn't usually a consistent and uniform line of creation for me. I like to adapt to the clients and the project itself. Everyone and every project require different ways of thinking, and it doesn't help me to have something very rigidly structured. Don get me wrong, the structure is always there, however, for the initial phase, where the creative part is a huge portion of the equation, I like to have a more flexible and fluid process.

But there is something I always do before I start designing. I open my notebook or a blank artboard in adobe illustrator and start putting all my ideas there, from the craziest to the most basic and simple. And in the middle of all these experiments, there is always something that can work as a base or structure for the project.

About the creative problem, well... we all procrastinate, we all have moments where we feel uncreative, and in those moments the only thing that helps (at least for me) is to just keep pushing.

Mack Garrison:

What are some of the tools you use to create your work?

Diogo Rosa:

Throughout my career, I have lost count of the number of tools I have used to create projects, and the number keeps growing, every day we have new tools to respond to new needs, and I make the effort to learn them. Whether these tools are digital or analog. Right now I use Adobe Creative Suite, however, I believe we just need to be creative and stop thinking we need to use X & Y tools to create something magical.

Mack Garrison:

As a successful freelancer, any advice you'd like to give to the next generation of artists?

Diogo Rosa

Thanks for calling me successful, but I still have so much to learn and to grow, and maybe that's what I can share. To not stop growing and learning. No one knows everything, even when we think we do.

It is so easy nowadays to create, share and learn. This easiness brings with it a higher level of competition. With more people doing it, the more saturated the market becomes. Nevertheless, there are audiences for everyone.

My advice is not to waste time with doubts. It was something that I struggled with for a very long time, with so many ideas running through my head, plus all the doubts about which one I should do... It's not worth wasting time on second thoughts, but rather gaining time on doing what is on your mind.

Mack Garrison:

Anything else you'd like to share with our readers?

Diogo Rosa:

Work on your dreams and yourselves. Keep trying to keep yourself fulfilled and happy. And above all, if we help others to achieve their goals, others will help us to achieve ours. We don't have to drag other people down to feel empowered. Be ambitious and humble at the same time.

Mack Garrison:

Thanks so much for the great chat, Diogo! And for the folks reading this, make sure to check out Diogo’s Behance linked here.

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Takeover Tuesday Andy Evans

An interview with Andy Evans: an independent Motion Designer with a strong focus on 3D & Art Direction.

Q&A with Andy Evans.

Read time: 2min

Mack Garrison:

Thanks for participating in our Tuesday Takeover, Andy. For those that are unfamiliar with you and your work, can you tell us a bit about yourself?

Andy Evans:

Hey, thanks for inviting me to this! I’m Andy Evans, a freelance motion designer based in Reading, UK. I went freelance a month before the pandemic struck which was beautifully timed but I’ve been busy ever since. These days my work has transitioned over from 2D to 3D projects but I still call myself a generalist.

Mack Garrison:

Your 3d work is so fun! How did you initially get into the animation space?

Andy Evans:

Thanks! I’ve always been into drawing from a young age and I grew up watching Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon in the 90s. Fast forward 20 years and I started to grow an interest in graphic design. I went on to study this in which one of the modules was motion graphics. At the same time, I discovered Andrew Kramer’s videos on YouTube and it spiralled from there. After graduating, I worked at a few studios and agencies in London surrounded by incredibly talented people who knew 3D inside out. I would always pester them and ask the most basic and mundane questions, but I learnt so much.

*Collection of shots from Andy’s “play” page on his website.*

Mack Garrison:

Are there certain types of projects that you love to work on? What makes a good client?

Andy Evans:

My favourites are always the ones where there’s lots of room for creative freedom. When the client understands the process and enjoys the outcomes, it always ends up becoming such a positive and fun experience.

Mack Garrison:

Tell us a bit about your process, how do you approach a creative challenge?

Andy Evans:

I try and keep as open-minded as possible during the early stages while sticking to the fundamentals of graphic design. I then sketch these ideas out on paper before bringing them into the digital scene. At the same time, depending on deadlines, I need to be considerate of how long things can take as 3D always takes longer than you think! .

Mack Garrison:

I love the "Play" page on your website. How important is play in a creative workflow and how often do you get the chance to mess around?

Andy Evans:

Thanks! I think it’s very important to have some fun. With some projects, there are restrictions on brand guidelines but I always try and bend the rules. On the other hand, projects can be so open that messing around is to be expected! There’s nothing more satisfying than putting your stamp on something.

*Work Andy did for Adele’s performance at Hyde Park.*

Mack Garrison:

It's hard to pick one project as a favorite, but do you have any that stick out as being really fun?

Andy Evans:

I recently was lucky enough to work on the visuals for Adele’s concert at London’s Hyde Park this summer. I was surrounded by so many talented people which made the process so much fun. The energy and enthusiasm from the team were electric!

Mack Garrison:

Knowing what you know now, what advice would you give to aspiring creatives?

Andy Evans:

Never stop learning! Keep experimenting and try new things. Don’t feel pressured by social media to compare yourself to others. Just be yourself :)

Mack Garrison:

What do you think the future of Motion Design looks like? Anything you're particularly interested in exploring?

Andy Evans

The fast development of A.I. has been seismic in the past year. Every week there seems to be another company that’s flexing its AI muscles which is fascinating to see. I have started dabbling with it for ideas so I’ll continue to explore that.

Mack Garrison:

Any upcoming projects or personal endeavors you're really excited about?

Andy Evans:

I’m currently working on something that involves boring everyday objects but is portrayed in a fun and unexpected way. Watch this space!

Mack Garrison:

Thanks so much for the great chat, Andy! And for the folks reading this, make sure to check out Andy’s site!

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Takeover Tuesday with Marta Azaña

An interview with Marta Azaña: a freelance 2D animator and motion designer..

Q&A with Marta Azaña.

Read time: 5min

Mack Garrison:

Hey, Marta! Thanks so much for participating in our Tuesday Takeover series. For those unfamiliar with you or your work, let's start with an introduction - who are you and what do you create?

Marta Azaña:

Hi! Thanks so much for having me at Takeover Tuesday. I’m Marta Azaña and I’m a freelance 2D animator based in the South West of England. I’m a big fan of bright and retro-y colours and I tend to apply these to my animations, usually pretty abstract and sometimes featuring typography or characters (and bikes!).

Mack Garrison:

How did you originally get into the motion design space? Did you have formal training or were you self taught?

Marta Azaña:

I have grown up in a creative family - Before retiring, my dad directed TV commercials and both my mum and dad are also photographers. I remember going to the sets with my dad practically my whole life and I wanted to be a filmmaker too! But I also loved graphic design and illustration. I studied Media in uni, eventually specialising in video editing. To improve my videos, I started to watch a lot of After Effects tutorials on Youtube to create nice looking intros, title sequences, etc. And that’s when I discovered that motion graphics was a thing and it was actually what I wanted to do as a career.

I didn’t study anything related to motion graphics in uni so I’m mostly self taught (I did take an After Effects and Cinema 4D course eventually). Then did two motion design internships in Madrid, Spain.

*Biker study from a broader collection of .gifs*

Mack Garrison:

I saw you moved to Bristol from Madrid, what was the reason for the move?

Marta Azaña:

When I finished uni in Madrid in 2013 it was recession times and the youth unemployment at that moment was around 55% (the worst year!). After two internships no one hired me and it was suuuper hard to get a junior role so I started to get a bit frustrated and I felt like I wanted a change of scenery for a little while. I also thought it would be a good opportunity to improve my portfolio. I had friends in the UK so I went to live with them while looking for motion graphics & animation jobs. I ended up in Bristol where I did….. another internship! haha this one at least was the most productive one, I learned a lot of animation stuff thanks to my good friend Matt Wilson who also was incredible patient with me & my English. After that internship I got a full time job at Bait Studio in Cardiff (where I lived for a few months) and, after that, at Hungry Sandwich in Leeds (this time remotely). I have been a full time freelancer since 2018.

Mack Garrison:

What's the animation scene like in Bristol, UK? Are most of your clients in the UK or do you find yourself working more internationally?

Marta Azaña:

When I moved to the UK in 2014 I didn’t know anything about Bristol. Maybe I had heard the one thing or two when I lived in Spain but I moved there blindly which is kind of what I wanted. I instantly fell in love with the city and I was so surprised by how big the animation and creative scene in general was. There were a lot of animation studios and this was 8 years ago… the population has pretty much doubled up since so you can imagine the number of freelancers and studios these days (still quite impressive considering Bristol’s population in 2022 is 700k!).

When I started freelancing I worked with Bristol studios mostly. Nowadays I work with UK and international clients.

Mack Garrison:

It seems like everyone is moving freelance these days. What's something you wish you knew before making that decision yourself?

Marta Azaña:

When I started freelancing I used to feel a lot of anxiety when I finished a gig and while I was waiting for the next one to happen, even though I had been earning more money than I would do if I worked full time. It might have only been a couple of days wait haha but I felt really nervous and I often ended up accepting whatever came next, even if it wasn’t really interesting, just because I wanted to see myself busy. 5 years later I can see there’s definitely plenty of freelance jobs and I feel way more relaxed about not having bookings. In fact, I take way more time off than before and I use it to work on personal projects or just spend more time outdoors, riding my bike and being away from my computer.

I also used to feel guilty about not posting enough personal animations on social media while I didn’t have any client work on. Seems like when you’re a freelancer there’s a lot of pressure to always do something that feels productive or work related and constantly share it with the world, but at least in my case, I found that pressure pretty counterproductive. I love to work on my own animations and experiment when I have time off, but it’s ok not to feel in the mood for it. I find that when I’m in the mood I enjoy it sooo much more, there’s no point to force ourselves in to it.

Mack Garrison:

What's been your favorite part of freelancing?

Marta Azaña:

As cliche it might sound, I love having a better balance between work and life and also the variety of projects and clients I’ve got to work with. In my opinion, one of the most rewarding things is when you work with a client for the first time and they want to hire you for a second, third time, etc. You don’t really get to experience that while working full time.

Mack Garrison:

Have you found any tips or tricks to landing clients?

Marta Azaña:

When I went full time freelance, I reached out to some studios to get my first projects and since then, the word of mouth has worked very well. My advice would be to enjoy every project as much as possible, even if it’s a small one - The more motivation, the better the results and the communication with the client, which could lead to more future potential projects. Also keeping in touch with lots of different freelancers through social media, platforms like Discord or attending to events (I’ve enjoyed going to Blend and OFFF and I’ve met a few people that way too).

Mack Garrison:

Your portfolio looks great and I'm sure it's hard to just choose one, but do you have a favorite project you could tell us about?

Marta Azaña:

here are so many I’ve enjoyed working on, but the 36 Days of Type 2018 I got to do with Meghan Spurlock meant a lot professionally and personally. Also during the pandemic I got to work on some animated scenes for a documentary called “Meat me halfway” with a Bristol studio called Yoke. That was pretty different to everything I’ve done so far and I realised I would love to do more animations for documentaries or short journalistic pieces.

Mack Garrison:

I'm sure there are a lot of animators who look up to you, so I'm curious, who are some motion designers you've always looked up to?

Marta Azaña:

There are sooo many! As I mentioned above, when I was a student I spent A LOT of time on Youtube and Vimeo (good times!) watching tutorials and looking for inspiration and the first person I remember coming across was Jorge Canedo when he shared the projects he did at Vancouver Film School. When above I said “that’s when I discovered that motion graphics was a thing and it was actually what I wanted to do as a career” what I really meant is that Jorge made me want to be an animator haha. I felt soo inspired and since then, the other people that have made me feel the same way have been Andrew Vucko, Yukai Du, Jordan Scott, Bee Grandinetti or Will Rose.

Mack Garrison:

Any final thoughts you'd like to share with our audience?

Marta Azaña:

To anyone who wants to make a career as a motion designer, I’d say keep experimenting and learning, but NEVER feel pressured by social media or compare yourself to others, the main goal should always be to enjoy. When you enjoy and stay motivated, everything else finds its way.

Thank you for this opportunity to show and talk about my work!

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Community

Before dash, it was just Mack & Cory. Two animators trying to make some cool stuff in an industry built around speed and efficiency. Cory and I clicked immediately. He was a fantastic 3d animator with a warm personality. Self taught and organized, Cory was the ideal creative to receive a project file from. On the other side of that coin, was me - a 2d animator fresh out of design school, full of ideas and apparently way too many pre-comps in my Ae files. We were both empathetic creatives who stayed late, did a solid for a client, or got a project manager out of a bind. We cared. About the work and the people we worked with.

But, after five years of projects at an agency that was more concerned about how much we could create vs how much care we put in the creative, we were feeling burned out.

We needed a change. And the good news for us was that the industry needed a change too. Clients were becoming more accessible just like the applications we were using and the idea of starting a boutique studio didn’t feel as far-fetched once we saw the success of others.

So Cory and I decided to follow suit. No business background. No real training. Just two guys who thought things could be done a little differently. Two creatives who believed in a work-life balance. Who believed that when love and sweat are poured into a project, less clients yielded bigger results. Two creatives who knew those results came from working in teams, sharing ideas, and collaborating. That’s why two creatives quickly turned to four, then eight, and in a blink of an eye, it wasn’t even about numbers anymore, it was just about the people.

The motion design industry has been awkwardly finding its place over the years. Navigating from infancy, into its adolescence, and in my opinion, finally into who it’s supposed to become - the next leader in the creative space. The motion design industry is feeling confident and if anyone wants to hire and retain talent, you have to be a people first organization.

Each year dash has a word or phrase we try to build around, and for 2022 its “purpose and intention.” We’re not growing just to grow. It’s not about hitting a specific number. We want to make better work with great people. A late, great friend of ours once said that he loved dash because in his words “there is the day you’re born and the day you die, what happens in between is the dash.”

Before dash it was Mack and Cory, now it’s a team.

Mack Garrison
Director of Content

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Takeover Tuesday with Rafael Silveira

An interview with Rafael Silveira: Brazilian artist living in Curitiba, Brazil.

Q&A with Rafael Silveira

Read time: 3min

Mack Garrison:

Thanks for joining us for our Tuesday Takeover, Rafael! Your creations have a very unique flavor and they feel incredibly original. For those unfamiliar with your work, could you tell us a bit about your style in your own words?

Rafael Silveira:

Brazilian Contemporary Art with a RetroPopOpPsychodelicSurreal Twist.

Mack Garrison:

Do you think of yourself as an artist or an illustrator? Is there a difference?

Rafael Silveira:

Artist. I think illustration is something different, it's a kind of art you create by demand to clients (usually brands or editorial companies) working together with other creatives (designers, art directors, writers, marketing people). it's also great art and I love good illustration.

Mack Garrison:

Did you have formal training or were you completely self taught?

Rafael Silveira:

I studied art at university (did not finish) and I have a degree in advertising. I think I learned a lot in these places, but I also learned most of things I do today by doing this things and making a deep research, as a self taught.

Mack Garrison:

How has growing up in Brazil influenced you and your work?

Rafael Silveira:

All my personal experiences have a lot of influence in my work. Brasil are very intense and surreal sometimes...

*Circonjecturas - Solo show at Caixa Cultural Brasilia*

Mack Garrison:

Your textile work looks phenomenal and I love all the little details. Have you always been interested in textile work or is that a new development?

Rafael Silveira:

All these details come from the talented hands of my wife, textile artist Flavia Itibere (my textile works are made in collaboration with her). She influenced me a lot with her fashion/textile references.

Mack Garrison:

Do you have a favorite type or project or medium to work with?

Rafael Silveira:

I work with several mediums. I love oil on canvas and digital art.

Mack Garrison:

Growing up, who were some of the artists or designers that were a big inspiration to you?

Rafael Silveira:

There are a lot of influences...Arcimboldo, Magritte, Mark Ryden, Audubon...I also love anonymous paper ephemera, an artist from 19th century.

Mack Garrison:

Are there any upcoming projects you're excited about?

Rafael Silveira:

Yes! My new solo show #EspumaDelirante (in english #DeliriousCream ) at Farol Santander São Paulo

Mack Garrison:

Any final takeaways you would like to share with our audience?

Rafael Silveira:

Please follow my insta page for news and more art @rafael_silveira_art

*Wild Life - Oil on canvas and carved wood*

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Takeover Tuesday with Caibei Cai

An interview with Caibei Cai: designer and animator who lives in Shenzhen, China.

Q&A with Caibei Cai

Read time: 3min

Mack Garrison:

Hi, Caibei! Let's start at the beginning: how did you start your career in animation?

Caibei Cai:

I studied animation during my undergraduate, and after I received MA Animation degree from Royal College of Art, I started working as a freelancer. I have made some advertisements, music videos and visual designs, sometimes I also curate programs for the animation weeks.

Mack Garrison:

What's the animation scene like in Shenzhen? Is it a pretty big community?

Caibei Cai:

Shenzhen is a city with many Internet companies, animation is usually used for the APP or games. Normally, they would like to choose conservative artistic styles to cater to the public taste. So it is quite difficult to get a suitable project for me.

Mack Garrison:

Do you mainly work with local clients or do you collaborate internationally?

Caibei Cai:

I often collaborate with some agencies in Shanghai and Beijing. I haven’t worked with foreign agencies before, and I’m willing to try it.

Mack Garrison:

Your style is very unique! The textural and organic approach provides a really tactile feel in a digital space. How did you develop this approach?

Caibei Cai:

Thank you! Seeing can mean touching the texture of a thing as people can see roughness and smoothness. Our eyes can feel the coarse edge of the paper, the smooth silk or the sticky oil bottle. So what I trying to do is invite the audience to touch my film through their eyes. But not passively following the storyline or fully understanding the meaning of the film. For me, the film is like a body, you could feel its’ breath, skin, hair instead of dissecting it’s muscle or organ inside.

Mack Garrison:

Could you tell us a little bit about your process? How do you come up with ideas for a project?

Caibei Cai:

I am very interested in people’s emotions, especially anxiety. Half Asleep talks about a silent relationship, Pining is the unobtainable feeling and the clocks in my room stops is about the insomnia experience. In the pre-production of Half Asleep, I created a linear story, but I only kept the emotion and removed every specific plot. It is similar to the force triggers tactile, you can’t see the actual force but you could feel the physical changing. As for me, the story plot is similar to the force, which let the audience could feel the changing emotion, so I tried to hide the plot but only left the emotion in the film. Besides, Havelock Ellis mentioned that Touch is the most irrational and emotional in the five senses. So showing the tactile could also enhance the emotional expression in the film.

Mack Garrison:

I noticed you've received Vimeo Staff Picks for Half Asleep, Pining, and The Clock in my Room Stops; congrats! Do you have a favorite of those three? Why or why not?

Caibei Cai:

I don’t have the favourite one, because I always looking forward to my next film, and I’ve just finished an animation short film called Silver Cave, which is about the hunt, domestication and desire.

Mack Garrison:

How long does it typically take to make this style of animation? Is coming up with the idea the hardest part of bringing your vision to life?

Caibei Cai:

Most of my animation is drawn frame by frame, drawing on paper allows me to touch every frame in the film. But it is really time-consuming. I would like to share the working process of Half Asleep. First, I drew all the movement on the paper with charcoal or soft pastel...

*I projected the animation on fabric and recorded it.*

*Finally, I printed the frames out and re-coloured them.*

*And when I made the logo intro for the BlackFin Production, I drew the frame by colour pencils, and then scan the frames, finally printed it on the waterslide transparent paper.*

Mack Garrison:

What's your proudest professional moment so far?

Caibei Cai:

Probably is the moment I got a tattoo of 1920 X 1080 on my arm.

Mack Garrison:

Any advice you'd like to give the next generation of animators?

Caibei Cai:

Eat well, sleep well, play well, and draw well!

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Takeover Tuesday with Nol Honig

An interview with Nol Honig: director, designer and animator who lives in New York City.

Q&A with Nol Honig

Read time: 5min

Mack Garrison:

Hey, Nol! Thanks so much for taking the time to hop on a Tuesday Takeover; I've been a big fan of yours for a while. For those who are not familiar with you or your work, could you tell us about yourself?

Nol Honig:

Hi Mack - thanks for the kind words, and for inviting me to participate in this excellent series! Really glad to be here and in the company of so many others I admire.

My name is Nol and I’m a director, designer and animator who lives in New York City. I’ve been freelancing as a motion designer since the late 1990s, which makes me OG. At this point I’d say that I’m best-known for photo-driven, mixed-media “collage” animation, as well as for teaching After Effects Kickstart at School of Motion. Hello everyone!

Mack Garrison:

How did your career begin? Did you always know you wanted to be in the motion world or did it take a little more luck than that?.

Nol Honig:

It took a lot of luck!

My parents were both very artistic, and encouraged me to be creative from early on. So right there, that’s extremely lucky. I was really into drawing and painting and all the usual stuff, but when I was seven years old Star Wars came out and after that I became fascinated with visual effects, stop motion, photography, and optical trickery. For me, that’s pretty much where it all started. I was also pretty lucky to have an older brother who got seriously into ‘home computing’ in the early 80s, and so I grew up feeling comfortable around computers ahead of a lot of other kids of my generation.

As a teenager I really wanted to be an indie filmmaker like Jim Jarmusch, Spike Lee, or the Coen Brothers, so after making a lot of 16mm films in college I applied to NYU for an MFA like all of those guys. And I was lucky to get in. When I was there I was really drawn to editing and post production, and volunteered to cut my thesis film on the film department’s first ‘non-linear’ (aka, computer) editing system — an AVID, which the department had just gotten that semester. Spending a few months working on a film project on a computer, and having to learn new software, was a big turning point for me.

I graduated in 1996 and while working in film production, I found myself much more interested in learning the newest software from Adobe called After Effects that had come out in the last year or so. I know it sounds obvious now, but at the time After Effects was the missing piece of the puzzle that allowed me to combine my love of filmmaking, design, animation, storytelling, staying indoors, and technology together in a way that just clicked for me. Still, there was no coherent motion design community at that time, and I worked in various production and post-production roles for many years — including directing a number of music videos for indie bands like Guided By Voices and Apples In Stereo.

My entryway into full time motion freelancing also happened as a result of luck. Somehow I had talked my way into working as an editor for a company that was producing commercials for then Senator John Kerry, who was running for President at the time. And after a few days I convinced them that I should be making commercials for them in After Effects, and not AVID. I made a ton of spots for the campaign that way, and even though John Kerry lost, I became a one-man freelance graphics department for this company. Fast forward many years, and that’s how I wound up as a lead animator for President Obama’s team in 2012.

*Fireside History with Michael Beschloss*

Mack Garrison:

You've got a really impressive resume of clients: Golden Wolf, Elastic, Buck, Pentagram, Hornet, Block & Tackle, PepRally, Ranger & Fox, Gretel, and let's not forget winning a Martin Scorsese Post Production Award! Tell us a little about that.

Nol Honig:

Well, the Martin Scorsese Post Production Award was something I won for my thesis film at NYU — specifically for the editing. I didn’t get to meet the great man, but as part of the award I was required to write him a letter of thanks. Not much of a story there. I believe the award was $300.

But yeah, in terms of studios … I’m super lucky to have worked with so many excellent teams over the years. As a senior freelancer, I appreciate great producers so much. They work tirelessly to make everything run smoothly, and often don’t get much credit or attention. For people entering the industry, remember: Creative Directors inspire, but Producers hire. Be nice to them, be honest about your calendar and the way you estimate your time, and always make sure to credit everyone on the team if you post about your work — including the producers.

Mack Garrison:

You're a creator and a teacher. What led you to the education side of motion design. Do you prefer one more than the other?

Nol Honig:

I wouldn’t say I prefer teaching over animating, but I will say that being a good teacher is much harder than being a good animator. At least for me. People are more complex than keyframes.

Honestly, I got into it by accident. In 2000 a friend recommended me for a job teaching a class called “Broadcast Design” at Parsons School of Design. I got hired on the spot because I knew After Effects, even though I had no prior teaching experience. But in the end I taught at Parsons for 18 years and in 2017 I won a Distinguished Teaching Award for my contributions to the school. And I’m still in touch with a number of very talented people who I first met as students and are now working in all corners of the industry.

Even better, I had the great luck to team up with School of Motion in 2017 to create their foundation class After Effects Kickstart. I am so proud of that class, and couldn’t be happier that I partnered with such great people.

Mack Garrison:

I see you also do some writing as well. How important is it for creative to be able to write in your opinion? Any tips or tricks to being a better writer?

Nol Honig:

Being a good writer is very important, in my opinion. It helps me make good first impressions over email with people who want to hire me. It helps me win pitches for new work. And it helps me promote that work.

My advice is to remember that writing and editing are separate tasks. Both are necessary, but write first and then edit second if you can help it. And don’t skip the editing part.

Mack Garrison:

Tell us a bit about "The Drawing Room." Where does the name come from and why not just go by Nol Honig?

Nol Honig:

Traditionally, a drawing room is where the owner of a house, perhaps with a guest, could ‘withdraw’ for more privacy. For me, that’s where I want to work. In that private, relaxed space, maybe with a friend.

But the reason I don’t work under my own name is just mostly for tax reasons, as boring as that sounds.

Mack Garrison:

Looking ahead, what do you think the future of Motion Design looks like?

Nol Honig:

Laser-guided keyframes.

Mack Garrison:

Any final takeaways?

Nol Honig:

Generally — figure out what works best for you, and then work in that direction. If you want to be a better designer, find sources of visual inspiration outside of motion design. If you want to be a better animator, observe the world intentionally.

Also ... if everyone is doing X, do Y. But that’s just me.

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Takeover Tuesday with Allen Laseter

An interview with Allen Laseter: an animator, designer, and director making stuff for brands and studios around the world.

Q&A with Allen Laseter

Read time: 5min

Mack Garrison:

Allen! Thanks so much for taking the time to chat with us for this week's Tuesday Takeover. For those who are not familiar with you or your work, could you give us a little intro and creative background?

Allen Laseter:

Thanks for having me. I am an animator/illustrator type, now working as Creative Director along with my wife and business partner Lindsey Laseter for our very newly formed studio, Lasso.

My background is really more in the live action world. I went to a small art school in Nashville where I still live and work and studied film, concentrating mostly on directing and cinematography, but the school was small and scrappy enough that you really were able to learn how to do everything, which in retrospect was a massive bonus.

My dream at that time was to make narrative films as a director, but when I graduated, reality set in and I started my career freelancing around town working on sets, editing, occasionally “directing” tiny commercials for local businesses, and trying my best to make non-commercial short films and other weird projects with friends.

I was doing this for a couple years until my friend who was really into After Effects and an all around technical wizard passed on a motion graphics type of job to me that he was not able to take on. The school I’d gone to didn’t have any sort of motion or even VFX program, but I’d picked up some After Effects tips from him and had made some stuff for fun just poking around on my own time. I decided to take on the project with my incredibly limited knowledge, and realized quickly how little ill-equipped I was. However, I was forced to learn a lot on the project very quickly, and by the end, I realized that I really liked working this way and wanted to seek out more of this kind of work.

This was still in the first half of the 2010’s when Vimeo had what felt like a really thriving and active motion community, and I was lucky enough to, over time, fall into a network and gradually improve my skills and find work until I had worked out a pretty nice freelance groove, working with various studios around the country as a remote animator, and occasional designer. I kept working on my chops until I began to pursue directing, and eventually got the crazy idea to form a studio!

Mack Garrison:

You've worked on a lot of fun projects over the years, but I'd love to know which have been some of your personal favorites.

Allen Laseter:

The first one that comes to mind is the first project I did for Ted-Ed on the topic of the Hedonic Treadmill framed around the scenario of Winning the Lottery and how it affects your happiness long term. I think this was the first time I had the opportunity to create a project from scratch, aside from the script which was supplied to me, and really approach a client project with a director’s mindset, in terms of really shaping how the overall piece would feel to an audience. It was also by far the longest thing I’d made, being over 4 minutes long. I think this project in particular gave me a big boost in my freelance career.

*TED-Ed: Will winning the lottery make you happier?*

Another memorable one for me was a short spot I did for Lagunitas as part of their “Mumblephone” series. The task was to take a voice mail that had been left on the company's customer feedback phone line and create an animation to it. That was basically the entire brief and I was allowed to do just about anything I wanted, which is rare and one of my favorite things. It was one of the early times where I got to really be adventurous and imaginative as well as really focus on a narrative for a client project.

Mack Garrison:

A lot of folks look up to you as a creative leader so I'd love to know who you look up to?

Allen Laseter:

That’s a really nice thought! This may sound like a cop out, but I look up to tons of people, from people who I know well to some I’ve never even met, and I hate to leave anyone out, so I will purposefully keep this short and limit it to our niche of the industry and name Zac Dixon and Sam Cowden who founded IV Studio here in Nashville. I look up to them for their rare mix of creativity and business ambition. They manage to seemingly keep their studio insanely busy with both client and self initiated projects alike and are extremely successful in both areas which is a huge inspiration to me.

Mack Garrison:

Our industry has been growing like crazy and we have more freelancers than we've ever had before. Any words of wisdom you could share with the next generation of creators? Things you wished you knew as a freelancer?

Allen Laseter:

When you get stuck or run into a problem that you can’t figure out on your own, tell someone quickly instead of burning time trying in vain to figure it out yourself for the sake of your ego. This was a big temptation early in my career and it never worked out well.

Be nice to people, even if they annoy you. It’s still a pretty small field. This will help from a business perspective and from a human perspective.

Hire a cpa.

Mack Garrison:

You and your wife Lindsey recently started a new studio called Lasso which is so exciting! What was the reason for the transition from freelancer to studio owner?

Allen Laseter:

Before Lindsey and I officially decided to start building our studio, I had personally been at a point for a while where I felt like I was ready to move on to something new, but wasn’t sure what. I had been freelancing for a while and enjoyed it but the thing I always craved was more influence over the entire process. I tried going the director route for a little bit and worked with a few different reps, but ultimately nothing ever really worked out all that well.

I was already feeling this in early 2020 and the biggest push in this direction came in March when the pandemic took over everything and we locked down and began to figure out how to work in the same space while raising our daughter and learning how to balance all the new things that stemmed from that. We also just happened to be beginning to collaborate on a project together for the first time ever, even though we were still independent freelancers. These experiences made us realize that, while we had to learn a new way of communicating (and are still learning it) we actually worked pretty well together and that our skill sets overlap very nicely and allow us to do work that we think is unique from a lot that is out there.

*Some thumbnails from Allen’s portfolio*

Mack Garrison:

What are you hoping to accomplish in the studio space that you weren't able to do as a freelancer?

Allen Laseter:

The main things for me are having more control over what work I take on, more influence over the end result of the work, higher quality/bigger scope projects that become possible when leading teams (as opposed to just working by myself which I’ve often done in the past) and finally, focusing more on actual directing skills, which was kind of my original goal back in film school, just in a different environment.

Mack Garrison:

What do you think the future holds for our industry? Anything in particular you're excited about or things that worry you?

Allen Laseter:

As things become more and more digital, I think that will create more and more opportunity for our kind of work. In particular, I’m excited about what this means for brand identities as this is the main focus for our studio, Lasso. In an increasingly digital space, it’s less and less necessary for a brand’s visual identity to be thought of as static first. It’s interesting to think of a brand in terms of its potential to be a changing and dynamic thing, which is what we are trying to do at Lasso.

On the other hand, and from a more zoomed out perspective, I worry about the increasing percentage of our lives that are spent in the digital realm and I think we should all go outside way more!.

Mack Garrison:

Last but not least, any new projects or creative endeavors we should be on the lookout for?

Allen Laseter:

Lasso will finally be launching a portfolio in mid-March, so keep an eye out for that!

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Takeover Tuesday with Kai Kundler

An interview with Kai Kundler, a Berlin born, Frankfurt based Motion Designer and Art Director.

Q&A with Kai Kundler

Read time: 5min

Madison Caprara:

Hi, Kai! Why don’t you start us off with an introduction to yourself? What originally drew you to the creative industry and how did you find yourself where you are today?

Kai Kundler:

Hey! My name is Kai and I am a Motion Designer and Art Director currently based in Frankfurt, Germany. I also love drawing, and I try to bring it into my work as much as possible, whether in personal projects or in my creative daily life. Right now I work a lot for the automotive and motorsport sector.

My creative career began quite conventionally: as a child, I loved to draw and return continually after breaks. The love of drawing evolved into a general lust for art, which led to graffiti and, eventually, design..

Madison Caprara:

I’m not sure I’ve asked this question in previous Takeover Tuesday interviews, but I’m curious. What is it about motion design that you love? Can you remember what the original draw of it was for you personally?

Kai Kundler:

My intention was never to become a motion designer, but like many others, I grew into it. Since I was a kid, I have been a big fan of cartoons and Disney Classics. From a young age, this moved and influenced me. My four-year-old heart was broken by the Mufasa Scene in The Lion King. However, my passion for motion design has grown over the years. I wanted to be an illustrator at first, but then I switched to a more traditional digital designer focus until I discovered my passion for motion design. I was hooked after trying more 2d and 3d animation and knew this is what I wanted to do. I still enjoy creating and watching anything that moves on the screen. I've always been curious about new things and love experimenting with them.

Madison Caprara:

You’re based in Frankfurt, correct? How’s the creative industry? Do you find yourself working more with home-based or international clients? Has the pandemic affected workflow much?

Kai Kundler:

In general, I believe that the creative community is a very open and straightforward one. You run into each other at festivals, talks, and award ceremonies. You usually know each other from a variety of settings or share friends, acquaintances, or coworkers. When you don't know each other, then you will surely meet at a later point in time. It makes little difference whether you live in Frankfurt, Berlin, London, or New York. I have also had the honor of working only with open-minded and easy-going people in this business.

The creative industry has always been a fast-paced one. This was also obvious during the pandemic: it was one of the first industries to be severely impacted, and it was also one of the first to recover and pick up again. Frankfurt has always had a strong international connection as a result of its proximity to financial clients and trade fair events. In general, I work with both international and national clients. Due to the fact that big network agencies are also based here, there is always a strong exchange with other international hotspots.

Of course, the pandemic has changed a lot of our lives. Working from home requires agencies and studios to become even more digital and adaptable. People are used to collaborating in a single location. You sit across from each other or are in meeting rooms. You have offered your support when you have noticed that colleagues need help. We have all worked with teams, slack, dropbox or whatever before. However, in the office, we had many more opportunities to communicate spontaneously or keep up. Now you have to be more active to know what your colleagues are doing, to exchange thoughts, or to see how they are doing.

Madison Caprara:

How do you think the German design industry compares to that of the U.S.?

Kai Kundler:

In general, I believe the design industries in Germany and the United States are similar, but there are differences in influences. Shared influences enable an exchange in Europe, whether it's the German Bauhaus, the rich art history, or the nearby influence of Swiss Design, De Stijl from the Netherlands, Russian constructivism, or even the strong cultural and art history from France or the UK.

It is always dependent on the project or the client. In other words, Germany can appear formal and impersonal at times. This is already present in the German language, as we have a polite and a more personal form of address. This is less prominent in English, making it appear much more relaxed and simple. Until now, it has frequently been the case in Germany that the safer, formal option was chosen over trying something new. But you can also sense a shift here; this is becoming softer, and there is a lot more experimentation going on, both in national and international projects.

The US market appears to be considerably faster-paced and more zeitgeisty. Furthermore, one must not overlook the sheer magnitude of power, technology, and money emanating from Silicon Valley. The global impact is still incredible, and it is still unique in the world.

Madison Caprara:

Where do you go to for inspiration when you find it lacking and how do you maintain your creative edge?

Kai Kundler:

It's important to get inspiration from art, music, photography, architecture and other art forms as well as the motion design scene. When confronted with a blocking barrier, however, the most effective response is to do nothing. Devoting one's time and energy to other activities may be beneficial if circumstances and time allow. Another project, or simply sleeping on it for the night, sports, a walk, or other forms of distraction are always helpful. After that, you can return to the topic with a clearer head.

A walk through the city works best for me. I love to walk through the city and streets and like the vibes of the city. It is very inspiring for me to be connected to the streets. I'm also looking forward to traveling more, and I'm also a big fan of creative challenges like Inktober. Forcing yourself to be a little creative every day exercises your creative muscles and often leads to surprisingly good results.

Madison Caprara:

Do you have an all-time favorite client or project you’ve worked on?

Kai Kundler:

It's tough for me to claim that one particular client was exceptional, because it would imply that other customers weren't as excellent. It is always very dependent on the project and the briefing. But I had a lot of joy working on projects for technological firms like DJI and, as previously mentioned, the automobile sector. In Germany, you just can't get around it. Just as important for me are personal projects or commissions.

Madison Caprara:

What are some up-and-coming media that you’re really interested in diving into in the future?

Kai Kundler:

There is a lot going on right now, such as the Metaverse, NFTs, and AI-based tools. New technological devices, such as Apple's maybe mixed reality device, can also give the entire industry a boost and change entire work processes. I always try to stay curious and try new things, but this has the side effect of increasing my pile of shame with plugins, software or learning new things. To my disadvantage, I like to be an early adopter, so I always have a lot of things I want to try out. However, this also means that I am rarely bored.

Madison Caprara:

I see that you studied at The RheinMain University. How valuable was your time and education to your career? And is there anything that you felt that you experienced or learned at university that you wouldn’t have been able to learn from anywhere else?

Kai Kundler:

The most significant benefit of this time was the opportunity to experiment. At first, I was given a lot of flexibility and was able to devote myself to a wide range of disciplines. This was the only way for me to discover and strengthen my inner love for motion design, 2d, 3d, and everything that moves on the screen.

That, I believe, is the most important thing a university can give you in a creative field. It is critical to be taught how to sit down and learn on your own. Motion design can be a very technical profession, and new tools are constantly being developed to help you achieve an even better result faster and more efficiently than before.

Madison Caprara:

Now, I’ve heard time and time again how personal projects outside of client work are important for mental health upkeep and furthering your skills as a creative. What is your stance on passion projects? Have you had the time recently?

Kai Kundler:

Personal projects are extremely important. Only here can you completely loosen up and experiment with new things. You can devote yourself to skills and things that are pushed aside in your day-to-day job here as well. You can learn and practice new skills. And once you're comfortable with what you've learned, you can apply it to your job or to your clients. You lay your own foundation here. I try to work on personal projects on a regular basis, and right now I'm focusing on typography and analog drawing.

Madison Caprara:

Aside from creating them for enjoyment, what are some things that you feel you gain from taking the initiative to do your own work?

Kai Kundler:

You begin to fine tune your skills, try new things, but you also strengthen what you already have. This boosts your self-esteem and allows you to recognize your own worth. What you quickly forget is that personal projects are the only way to get started in the creative industry. I can't tell you how many hours I spent as a kid drawing on my paper and having a good time. That is exactly what you should maintain and continue to do later on.

Madison Caprara:

Are you working on anything exciting we should be keeping our eyes open for in the near future?

Kai Kundler:

I'm currently working on a number of projects that I'm not allowed to share or that are still in their early stages. But I make an effort to be active and to create new and exciting things. As a result, it is always exciting.

Madison Caprara:

Is there anything in particular that you would like to end this interview on?

Kai Kundler:

I am sure we will come out of the pandemic stronger than before, having learned a lot about ourselves and appreciating life much more day to day. So keep moving, educate yourself, and stay creative. Also never watch Disney Classics with me because I will cry my eyes out.

Thanks for having me!

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Takeover Tuesday with Linda Miletich

An interview with Linda Miletich, an illustrator and digital marketing manager based in Oberpullendorf, Austria.

Q&A with Linda Miletich

Read time: 5min

Madison Caprara:

Hi, Linda! Why don’t we start with a bit of insight into who you are and what it is you do.

Linda Miletich:

Hey there, I’m Linda! Currently I’m enjoying my rather traditional life in the Austrian countryside. That’s also where I found my ideal work-life-balance. Or maybe “work-work-life-balance“ is more accurate: I recently started as a Digital Marketing Manager but I am also an Illustrator and I love the combination. I realized that when your talents and skills are in the creative spectrum there’s so many fields you can bring them into. And I’ve always wanted to cultivate all my interests. Since I’m a very analytical person and super interested in psychology I started to get into conception, brand strategy and marketing. Focusing entirely on illustration wasn’t an option for me since I don’t really like working from home and building mainly virtual contacts (you have to do that if you want to be an illustrator in the middle of nowhere with no real creative community around). I wanted to dive into the real world and spend less time on instagram and my phone. So in my illustration time I focus on a few commissions that really fascinate and inspire me and of course I work on my own projects too.

Madison Caprara:

I see that you studied communication design in school. Could you break that down for us, what exactly is communication design?

Linda Miletich:

Communication design sounds a little cryptic but I think it’s the perfect term for what you learn in design school. There is always a message that has to be conveyed, something you want to show, tell or explain to your audience. Or there might be a way you want to make your audience feel. In communication design you get into the space between the sender (client) and a receiver (target audience) of information and you do all the work so that the receiver takes away the right message. For that you have to dig into a topic, understand it, take it apart and put it together in a way the receiver would understand. You have to develop a concept and your approach to the challenge. That’s what you learn in the course – and of course the many tools that help you visualize and send your message: photography, illustration, text, film, graphic design, sound and interactive media.

Madison Caprara:

How did you pivot into illustration and how have you utilized the skills you learned with your education to further your creative career?

Linda Miletich:

Love that question! I wouldn’t say “pivot“, I’d say I “boomerang-ed“ back to illustration. Drawing is how it all started. As a kid I loved watching anime and every time I played Super Mario I was so fascinated by the fact that you can create a whole new world from your imagination: the stories you can tell, the things you can invent. In design school I focused on brand strategy and design because at the time I thought that illustration was just not foreseeable or reliable enough as a career path for me.

But I also learned that your own happiness and your success is not about choosing what the majority of people does or what is perceived as “safe“. Your safest option is recognizing your own talents and building on them. You owe that to yourself. So I returned to illustration and art, it’s really where I feel most at home and alive at the same time. I think my education in strategy and conception helps me to double check if what I plan and what I draw communicates the right message. But I do get carried away too and find myself in a creative free flow sometimes – that’s often when the best ideas happen. I definitely believe in intuition!

Madison Caprara:

What are the range of projects you’ve worked on? Do you have a favorite?

Linda Miletich:

So far I’ve illustrated wine labels, icons and illustrations for websites, tattoos, cover art for musicians and I am currently working on my own book project. My favorite project is probably my new series “Lenny’s Adventures“. The main character is a little boy. He symbolizes the vulnerable inner child within each and every one of us and I like visualizing the struggles of life with him.

Madison Caprara:

I see that you’ve done a bit of cover art for different musicians and playlists. Tell us more about that!

Linda Miletich:

Sure! I was asked if I wanted to participate in building up the playlist brand Chill Better Daily. The musical focus is instrumental chill vibes and my two partners already had the idea of animal characters as a base for the branding. I developed the five characters and the imaginary world they live in as a base and location for the sceneries and covers along with the overall corporate design, typography and color scheme for the brand. Chill Better Daily releases EPs and singles with different musicians from all over the world. My time at Chill Better Daily has come to an end since I had to re-evaluate my creative capacities but I am super excited where the journey will go for the music and the cover art in the future!

Madison Caprara:

How has living in Austria affected your work?

Linda Miletich:

Well, I don’t think that living in Austria has any particular influence on my work but I create art from a perspective of a young woman living in Central Europe. I think that defines my experiences and therefore my art.

Madison Caprara:

Now, along with the title of “Illustrator” and “designer,” you also are skilled in brand strategy. How do you define the role(s) of a brand strategist? What personal skills does a strategist need to be successful?

Linda Miletich:

Brand strategy is really where every design discipline comes together. As a strategist you have to supervise every little aspect of communication and make sure that the overall result fits the goals of the brand. You are responsible for the brand positioning, the corporate design, brand tonality and everything that builds the identity of a brand. For that you have to like thinking, diving deeper into customer’s brains, understanding them, analyzing their behavior. When building a brand it’s really about bringing together the following things: What do people want? What is economically and ecologically responsible? What is viable for the company? What is feasible? So you have to be ready for complex challenges!

Madison Caprara:

How does it tie in with the work in which you are physically creating?

Linda Miletich:

Apart from a conceptual approach there is not much connection for me and that is wonderful. I love creating with my hands and switching off my brain for a while when I draw. That’s also where ideas find me and I don’t go out there searching for them.

Madison Caprara:

Do you think of yourself as a “brand?” If so, how would you say you’re positioning yourself for success?

Linda Miletich:

I would say: not yet. But I am definitely taking the steps to find and develop my own style. I couldn’t lose my own creative identity for of a commission. In fact, I want to be consulted because of my style. And I am planning a “Lenny’s Adventures“ book in the future – I want to bring my own art into the world too because my own ideas define my most authentic creative self. My ideas come from daily struggles and thoughts. I like to look behind the surroundings, routines and behaviors we view as "normal". So when I have to describe my positioning or my motivation to create art I’d say that I like exploring the mysteries of the obvious.

Madison Caprara:

What do you think will be the most exciting design-related trends of 2022?

Linda Miletich:

I hope that we will see a lot of yellow this year again and recently I am noticing more and more retro Disney illustration vibes. I think and hope that we will continue the revival of past decades and complete the aesthetic with „modern“ elements.

Madison Caprara:

What are you passionate about outside of work?

Linda Miletich:

That’s a good one. My biggest passion is building a life that I am genuinely happy with. Work is a part of this but also building meaningful connections with people is extremely important to me. I love spending quality time with my friends and also I focus on growing as a person and becoming my truest self. Soon I will also move into a new home so at the time you mostly find me putting together interior moodboards.

Madison Caprara:

Is there anything, in particular, you would like to end the interview with?

Liz Galian:

I want to say thanks for the opportunity, this was a lot of fun. And to anyone who reads this: You’re awesome and you’re talented. Keep searching for where you belong. And be nice to each other. :) Much love, Linda.

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Takeover Tuesday with Liz Galian

An interview with Liz Galian, a freelance designer and illustrator based in Brooklyn.

Q&A with Liz Galian

Read time: 5min

Madison Caprara:

Hi, Liz! Let’s kick off our chat with an introduction to yourself; who are you, what is it that you do, and how did you find yourself where you are today?

Liz Galian:

Hi Madison! I’m a freelance animator and illustrator based in Brooklyn. These days I find myself doing mostly character design and animation, which is a lot of fun for me. As a kid I really loved drawing portraits, so it’s kind of funny that my career meandered me back to that.

Madison Caprara:

What made you want to pursue animation and design as a career? Was there anything specific you saw or experienced, or was it an interest that gradually grew over time?

Liz Galian:

Initially I really just wanted to be an illustrator! My grandfather was an illustrator for a greeting card company and we had his work hanging all over my home growing up. Because of that, I was really privileged to have artistically supportive parents. They encouraged me to go to art school from a very young age, which is so rare. Then, toward the end of my college career I took an animation class on a whim and completely fell in love with it. From there, the more I learned about the motion graphics industry, the more I felt at home there! It’s such an amazing intersection between illustration, design, and animation — and because of that, I get to do the two things I love most without having to choose.

Madison Caprara:

How would you go about describing your signature style or “look”?

Liz Galian:

I’ve always been drawn to really bright, warm colors. These days the style that comes most naturally to me is 2D, graphic, and whimsical. I think a lot of that has to do with how fast projects move in this industry, and the worry that a design will be difficult to animate if it isn’t as simple as possible. I’ve been told that my animating style has a softer flow to it and is usually mistaken as being mostly cel animated (in reality, it’s usually after effects!).

Madison Caprara:

I see that you recently dropped a new reel. It looks great! Are there any particular do's and don't’s that you feel newer creatives and/or students should know before creating and sending a reel out?

Liz Galian:

Thanks so much! The thing I love about reels is that it gets to be a documentation of a few years of your life and your work, where you get to see how much you’ve grown. Every time I post a new reel, it feels like a little celebration. I would say the biggest piece of advice to someone just starting out, is to use their reel as an opportunity to curate what they’re most proud of and experiment with how you can best showcase it. There aren’t any hard and fast rules for what music to use, what aspect ratio it needs to be in, how fast the cuts are, etc. I would say just keep it under a minute and fifteen seconds, and don’t steal other people’s work (obviously) — but beyond that, make it your own and have fun with it!.

Madison Caprara:

What kinds of projects are you currently working on and which has been your favorite so far?

Liz Galian:

My last big project was my reel, so now I’m taking a breather before I dive back into personal projects. This year I want to put more of an emphasis on the illustration side of my art practice, which I think takes a bit of a back seat to the animation side in my day-to-day life. I’ve been working on a deck of Tarot cards in my free time, so I think that might become the first side project I get serious about finishing!

My favorite project I’ve done so far is actually a smaller one I did with Mailchimp in 2020. I had the space to explore a new workflow I hadn’t used before, where I made draft animations in after effects and then traced over them in photoshop. This let me figure out the beats of each animation really quickly, and then invest most of my time in really playing with the line quality I could get out of the really gorgeous photoshop brushes Mailchimp uses. Usually when I cel animate, I do the entire project in one program and had never really given myself permission to mix AE animation with cel animation. That project showed me that every project calls for a new way of execution, and that there’s really no wrong way to get things done.

Madison Caprara:

We’re coming up on two years of living in this pandemic-ruled world–which is crazy to me. Has your life (and work) changed drastically in that period of time?

Liz Galian:

Definitely, but for the better I think! I was already doing a little bit of remote freelancing before the pandemic, mostly when I was art directing with an all-female studio in South Africa called Batch. At the time I remember wishing that more studios were open to working with people remotely, as a lot of studios and artists I really admired and wanted to work with were on the other side of the US. The new work-from-home norm over the past two years has made it possible for me to make new relationships with amazing people I never would have been able to work with, which I’m so thankful for.

The pandemic also made me take a hard look at how little I prioritized my personal life and my health. I started exercising and spending more time with my friends and family, saying no to jobs that asked for too much, and giving myself more grace when I was tired or burnt out. Its caused a big shift in me as a person. Unexpectedly, I think my work has also gotten better because of it.

Madison Caprara:

What practices did you implement to keep your sanity?

Liz Galian:

I’m really into puzzles, so that’s kept me sane! I try to do a little sudoku or a crossword every day, though those have taken a back seat lately to Wordle. I’m also a big book worm, so not having to travel to work every day gives me time to have my coffee and read a chapter or two before I start work in the morning. My favorite thing I’ve read so far during the pandemic is “Understanding Comics” by Scott McCloud. It weirdly helped me learn a lot about pacing in storytelling and all of the visual ways that you can communicate it. I highly recommend it for anyone who animates (or is into comics!)

Madison Caprara:

In your opinion, for someone aspiring to be an animator, how much knowledge outside of animating is required? Can someone who has more of a fine art background make it, or is a higher technical knowledge needed early on?

Liz Galian:

I’m biased because I went into art school not knowing what Adobe was, how to open photoshop, or how animation worked at all. I think like anything, animation is a skill that comes with years of practice, and if you decide to put the hours in, no matter where you start and what background you come from, you’ll get good at it. Nobody is inherently highly skilled at anything on their first try, so the only barrier anyone can face at a skill they want is whether or not they want it badly enough to keep practicing. The internet has endless resources and the animation community is really welcoming and helpful!

Madison Caprara:

On the flip side, what about those more traditional art skills? For someone who wants to be an animator, how important is it for them to have drawing skills?

Liz Galian:

I think it depends on the kind of animation you want to do. If you’re interested in cel animation, drawing is a skill you might want to invest time in. If you’re interesting in more traditional mograph-y styles and after effects heavy animation, I don’t think having drawing skills is necessary.

There are so many animators who aren’t illustrators, and they still make amazing work! A lot of studios have animators and illustrators on separate teams, so the animators are receiving the artwork that’s already been made and animating from there. There are so many pockets in this industry with different needs, so not having drawing skills isn’t a make-or-break for your career. On the flip side though, if you want to start drawing there are so many resources online that can help. School of Motion, Skillshare, and Youtube are full of classes and tutorials that will give you tips and tricks. In pre-pandemic days, most local colleges and community arts centers offered life drawing classes (usually low commitment weekend ones for fun!), so if you have that as an available resource I’d recommend giving that a shot as well!

Madison Caprara:

Where do you go for inspiration when you find yourself in a creative rut?

Liz Galian:

When I’m feeling a little creatively lost or when I’m burnt out, I go for a walk through The Met. It’s so big that I’m convinced that there are corners of it that I haven’t walked through yet, and I can always find a collection in there that I haven’t seen yet that will spark an idea. It’s also just really calming and meditative to spend a quiet afternoon there with no expectations and see what catches your eye naturally.

Madison Caprara:

Is there anything, in particular, you would like to end the interview with?

Liz Galian:

I feel like a lot of what we’ve been talking about how and where best to start if you want to be an animator. When I was starting out, I wish that someone had told me to be braver and reach out to people who’s work I admired and ask more questions. People in this industry are so incredibly kind and generous with their advice and with their time, and everyone wants to see everyone else succeed. So I’d encourage students and people just starting their career to ask questions, be open to learning new things, and remember that everything comes in time!

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Takeover Tuesday with Samy Halim

An interview with Samy Halim, an illustrator and graphic artist from Bordeaux, France.

Q&A with Samy Halim

Read time: 5min

Madison Caprara:

Hi, Samy! I really appreciate you taking the time for this interview. Why don’t we kick it off with an introduction to yourself? Who are you and what is it that you do? How did you find yourself in the creative industry?

Samy Halim:

Hi, my pleasure!

I’m Samy Halim, an artist creating vibrant pop portraits and some animals, mainly on iPad and in the Procreate app. I’m based near Bordeaux in the south-west of France, born in Algeria from an Algerian father and French mother, studied at the Art school of Algiers, then we moved to France in 1994.

During my 10 months of military service I was supervising the Graphics office of the International Cooperative Technical Service of the Police in 1995-1996 where I started getting a little familiar with digital tools like Photoshop. I remember at that time there was just one layer and one undo level, so I had to be really sure of what I was doing :D. I learned Corel Suite also with a goal of replicating what I did organically in a digital format.

After my service I started working in Parisian studios and agencies. My first job was in a small studio near Bercy in Paris that had about 4 people including the CEO and two secretaries. My last job as an art director in graphic design was in an agency called Pixelis, where were approximately 80 or so. I left it in 2011 to create my own studio, specializing in illustration and packaging design and then in 2017 I won a packaging Pentaward for the design of three liqueur bottles.

I worked and currently work with different international agencies and companies like Dior, Lancôme, Hilton hotels, Harper Collins, Washington Post, Hennessy, Clément Rhum, Tanqueray gin, FFF (French Football Federation), Savage Interactive (Procreate developers), Wizards of the Coast, Ubisoft, BBDO Dublin, Landor,to name a few…

Madison Caprara:

For those who may be unfamiliar, how would you go about describing your work (look/feel, thematics, etc.)? Do you find yourself gravitating to a specific subject matter or topic?

Samy Halim:

My work is mainly about people and I like to show the beauty and personality in every single person. I like to show the diversity, equity, equality, in a colorful and vibrant style, using expressions and postures that create some connection with the onlooker. This is very important for my work. Having a hook and a unique look is key to successful artwork. I’m mostly inspired from the Art Déco era in the 20s-30s and the Memphis design of the 80s-90s, from fashion, music, and other artists like Andy Warhol, Jean-Paul Goude, Peter Sato, Tamara de Lempicka, Ichiro Tsuruta, Ludwig Holhwein, Tom Purvis, J.C. Leyendecker, Alfons Mucha, and Coles Phillip.

Madison Caprara:

I see that you underwent training at the Fine Arts School of Algiers. Tell us a bit about that experience. How integral was it to your current success?

Samy Halim:

Unfortunately, I only trained for a year with the Fine Arts School of Algiers and had to leave Algeria because of the civil war. I was in the Graphic Design program where I learned academic drawing, sketching, how to use different tools and media like acrylic paint, felt pens, pencils, and technical pens.

But the biggest part of work was in my room. I was improving my skills all day and all night by creating imaginary logos and brands, making a lot of portraits as well with different approaches like colored pencils, stippling technique, felt pens, and more. I had to try and master different tools and techniques to end up with my pop style, but the journey was very long, it took me about 20 years. I was always seeking something special. Something unique and recognizable at first sight, and I think what makes it special is the balance between flat and edgy shapes and the shadings on the skin between cold and warm colors which are inspired from sunsets to provoke a certain mood.

Madison Caprara:

Are you currently freelancing? What did your professional path look like up until this point?

Samy Halim:

Currently I’m freelancing for different companies, agencies, studios, small and international brands, and after receiving lots of encouragement from my community of followers, I started working with some companies on NFTs. This is all new to me, and I have a lot to learn, but it’s so exciting!

Madison Caprara:

How did the way you think about your work and creative processes change as it began to gain more attention?

Samy Halim:

Very interesting question!

My perspective changed when I started putting a hook in the center of the artwork. Like the overall construction combining organic and mechanical shapes and using a good balance of cold and warm colors. Putting details in strategic places makes it more interesting; kind of like Easter eggs.

Madison Caprara:

You are currently based in Bordeaux, correct? What is the industry like in that part of the world? How does it compare to others that you have found yourself in?

Samy Halim:

Most of the designers here in Bordeaux are web and UI-UX designers. Some are illustrators for different industries like books, press, and video games. We have Ubisoft based here, but I have no connection with them. Covid doesn’t help.

I never try to do the same thing as others, instead I try to find success based on my own distinctive work.

Madison Caprara:

You operate under the entity of WAAW STUDIO. What was the impetus to starting the studio? When did it go from Samy Halim to WAAW?

Samy Halim:

Before creating that name it was “Almost Famous Studio”, but it was too hard for non English speakers to spell it. So, I ended up with that palindrome name, and you guessed it, I wanted it symmetrical : ) It looks graphical and is constructed well. I wanted to make a difference between my pop-art style and my Illusive and luxurious style (Illusive Studio). But I am gathering everything under my own name. By trying to separate both styles people get lost. My friends and those who know me and my work advised me to use only my name.

Madison Caprara:

Who has been your favorite client (or project) to with? Tell us a bit about that!

Samy Halim:

There are many! My project with Dior was a sweet collaboration, Wizards of the Coast a really cool one as well, and H-Theoria liqueurs gave me carte blanche on the creative.

Madison Caprara:

Your current work explores popular culture figures using an ipad pro. What led you down this path? How does this medium/method help you to realize your vision in a way that a more hands-on approach cannot?

Samy Halim:

iPad Pro helped me unleash my creativity and to explore different tools and techniques in addition to classical ones. Symmetry feature in Procreate gave me the ability to realize what I always had in mind and the drawing assistant was a great feature too. I’m creating work much faster and to be able to take my device everywhere is fantastic; I can create whenever inspiration comes. I spend 95% of my time working on IPad Pro and it’s getting harder and harder to work on a computer.

Madison Caprara:

I’m curious, how do you determine which celebrities to feature in these portraits? Purely random? Personal appreciation?

Samy Halim:

I choose my celebrities based on if I think they can be integrated into a geometrical composition harmoniously or if they represent a pop-art and hip-hop style. Some of them are for an impactful reason.

Madison Caprara:

What’re some of the strategies you have implemented when looking for inspiration without getting overwhelmed by the work of other artists you admire?

Samy Halim:

No strategy. Inspiration comes more from people in the street or from pictures on social media. The artists I admire are like a background, a base, I don’t necessarily think of a particular style when I create, I think it appears in some details unintentionally.

Madison Caprara:

If you had to choose one key point of advice to share for those wanting to become a successful digital illustrator, what would it be?

Samy Halim:

If I had one piece of advice to give, without hesitation, it would be to be yourself. Don’t be overwhelmed by all the styles you admire. Do your own thing, exactly how you want it, and don’t give up for any reason. Stay the course until you end up with something that reflects your vision.

Madison Caprara:

Is there anything exciting we should be looking out for from you in the near future?

Samy Halim:

Yes, definitely! I’m getting into the NFT universe, and I’d be happy to be an actor in the metaverse, as I am mainly a digital artist. I think I have my place out there, and hopefully doing some exhibitions in the US and the UK.

Madison Caprara:

Is there anything in particular you would like to end the interview on?

Samy Halim:

Dreams have a certain price, patience, and faith and anyone who wants to reach them has to invest the time.

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Takeover Tuesday with Leo Franchi

An interview with Leo Franchi, a Designer and 2D Animator based in Patagonia, Argentina.

Q&A with Leo Franchi

Read time: 5min

Madison Caprara:

Hey, Leo! Let’s start off with an introduction to yourself! What is it that you specialize in? How did you get started in design and animation?

Leo Franchi:

First of all, thank you for having me on this series! I really enjoy reading these interviews every Tuesday!

My name is Leo Franchi and I am a Designer and 2D Animator based in Argentina. I specialize in mixed media using collage, cutouts, and textures. I studied Visual Communication Design at UNLP’s Fine Arts College, one of the most important universities here in Argentina. Possibly many animators started in a similar way, but I began animating as s a kid; giving my drawings small movements frame by frame, making my characters blink or move their hands with two or three drawings.

The third year of my degree was a game-changer. We analyzed a ton of different film title sequences. We also had assistant professors working in the industry showing us amazing animated pieces. I have to say that I didn’t study animation in depth at university, but the processes to resolve any visual communication problem that I learned there are key for me now in producing any motion graphics pieces. There were a few of us who decided to explore this field for our thesis during the fifth year of the degree. The first half of it was dedicated to the theoretical side, and the latter to the practical. Since I always enjoyed branding, I decided to work on a piece for a TV Channel called “Canal (a)”, which specializes in arts and culture. This first animation project was a great experience in which I experimented with animated inks and textures. I remember we had to learn to use After Effects from scratch because it’s not taught at university, you had to learn it by yourself.

Madison Caprara:

For those who may be unfamiliar, how would you describe your work and signature style?

Leo Franchi:

I think my work falls between digital and analog. I like to create cutouts with scissors and other tools, then scan and animate them on my computer. I use Photoshop and After Effects in a way that emphasizes this approach, so the final result is a digital piece with an analog/tangible feel. Also, during this process, I discovered the power of the negative space and counter form. If you cut out a circle from a piece of paper you end up with two shapes, the positive, being the circle itself, and the negative. On the other hand, if you do it on the computer, you end with just the circle.

Madison Caprara:

Now, you spoke a little about your university experience. After graduating, what was your first “official” job or client?

Leo Franchi:

My first job was in a branding studio. As I said before, I really enjoy designing logos and brand systems. Although it wasn’t an animation studio, I was able to introduce the concept of movement in some projects and in all presentations with clients. I believe there is a very close connection between cutting out something from a piece of paper and designing a logo. You have to create something simple and highlight features that immediately identify an element or concept.

Madison Caprara:

When looking back over the span of your entire career, who has been your favorite client to work with?

Leo Franchi:

I think it is better to work with a good team rather than a specific client. Betting on good teamwork has opened all the doors since I started in this field. In my opinion, team spirit is the all-important element. If you're working in a certain studio and someone stays to work a little longer to finish up a project task, if you can, stay with them and share the work.

If I had to name one, I would say the rebranding of the Cooking Channel I teamed up with Elevation for. It’s one of the few projects where I could add brand concepts into the movements. When something moves from A to B, it does it with the action we make when cooking: chopping, slicing, mixing, twisting the pepper mill, etc. I’ll always be grateful to Elevation and Cooking Channel for the freedom they gave me on this project.

*Cooking Channel - Refresh*, 2017. Leo Franchi.

Madison Caprara:

When you are accepting these projects are there any “red flags”, or even, “green flags” you look out for?

Leo Franchi:

I have worked on all kinds of projects, from 3D animation to compositions in Nuke. On my site, however, I only show work I enjoy doing. Clients and studios usually call me for the type of projects I put out there. It’s an important filter.

That being said, for me, a green flag would be the opportunity to work on both design and animation in the same project. I love doing collaborative projects every year, this is definitely a green flag as well. Red flag: 3D animation and projects with a lot of flares and lights interspersed.

Madison Caprara:

Moving on to your creative process, is there anything particularly unique about it? How do you go about kicking off a project? What materials do you use?

Leo Franchi:

If I’m designing the project, I make cutouts with scissors and other tools then scan and animate them on my computer. I use Photoshop and After Effects in a way that emphasizes this approach, so that the final result is a digital piece with an analog/tangible feel. When I’m cutting these paper shapes with the pen tool in Photoshop, I use tons of nodes to keep those irregularities that appear on paper or cardboard when cutting with scissors.

Madison Caprara:

How do you initially choose a direction?

Leo Franchi:

As I said before, it’s easy for me now because I only show on my site what I like doing. So, if a studio is working with a direction similar to my style, they usually call me directly.

Madison Caprara:

You recently participated in a fun collaborative project with Coat of Arms. Tell us a bit about the cookbook! How many people were involved? What was your role?

Leo Franchi:

COA’s cookbook was an amazing collaborative project! It’s full of contributions by artists they have worked with since founding their studio more than 10 years ago. The recipes represent different cultures, countries, and family traditions from all over the world. Each collaborator provided a recipe and an illustration, a high-quality photo, or a collage of their recipe. There were around 33 artists who contributed. I collaborated with the ‘Alfajores de Maicena’ (Cornstarch Alfajor) recipe, a classic in Argentina and a journey back to my childhood.

Madison Caprara:

I love to see these collaborative projects that bring artists from all over the globe together!

Moving on to some of your personal pieces, your short film, Supervielle, won quite a few awards. Tell us about it! How did the initial idea come to fruition?

Leo Franchi:

I will always be thankful for taking the time to make this abstract experimentation. The truth is that I had nothing planned. It came about while I was working and listening to instrumental music. This song from an Uruguayan musician, Luciano Supervielle, played, and suddenly my mind started to imagine shapes in motion. We have all the tools to make a short film, and that opens up a whole new world for us animators. A world different from our industry…the amazing world of film festivals.

I have to say that it wasn’t easy. For most of the festivals in which I was competing, I was considered to belong in the ‘experimental’ category. Most of the others were character-driven short films. So, for an abstract piece, it was difficult. I hope there will be more festivals dedicated to abstract animation, as when you find and participate in one, everything you have worked for makes sense.

Madison Caprara:

Where do you find yourself going for inspiration when in a creative rut? Is there a particular site, creative, or even a singular piece?

Leo Franchi:

I think I get my inspiration from the outdoors and nature. I live in Patagonia, a beautiful natural environment surrounded by mountains and lakes. Just going out for a short hike turns all of my senses on. You’re looking at things, hearing things, smelling, touching rocks, and plants. Honestly, I have had many opportunities to go and work abroad, but this environment is the reason why I still remain here; who knows what the future holds!

Supervielle, 2018. Leo Franchi.

Madison Caprara:

What are some hobbies or activities you do that aren’t physically animation but help you be a better animator?

Leo Franchi:

Hiking! I always carry a small notebook and many solutions to different problems or new ideas have emerged while I’m out hiking.

Madison Caprara:

Should’ve guessed that!

Well, we’re reaching the tail end of our conversation, Leo. Before we say our goodbyes, is there anything in particular that you would like to end this interview on?

Leo Franchi:

Thank you again for the invitation! I want to end the interview by saying something positive about the pandemic; I was able to find the time to plan and organize my online shop which will see the light of day soon. It's something I've always wanted and have never had time to set up.

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Takeover Tuesday with Kristina Sharabinskaia

An interview with Kristina Sharabinskaia, a Motion Graphics Designer and Concept Illustrator at The Mill.

Q&A with Kristina Sharabinskaia
Read time: 8min

*duck Pond*, 2021. Kristina Sharabinskaia.

Madison Caprara:

Hi, Kristina! If you don’t mind, let’s start the interview with an introduction to yourself. Who are you, what do you do, and how did you find yourself in the current position that you are?

Kristina Sharabinskaia:

I’m Kristina Sharabinskaia! I am a Junior Designer at The Mill. My role in the company is to storyboard, design concepts, and illustrate for motion. It's a fun job! I personally am not fond of animating things, this works well so that I don’t need to. I’m originally from St. Petersburg, Russia. I think the biggest reason why I’ve ended up in motion design is that my experiences in international schooling encouraged me to look for an escape through art.

When I was 12, I was sent abroad to England. At the time, I didn’t know English so art was something that allowed me to be busy while not speaking to people. I was that one student who draws during classes instead of paying attention. On the side, I used to go to fine art curriculums which helped me to get the principles of design down. So I took off to high school wanting to “draw cartoons,” and eventually got into college.

At SCAD, my major was Motion Media Design, and because I am an international student, ICE requires me to work in a major-related field. After graduation, I landed a few jobs as a freelancer for Scholar and State Design, however, I needed something more full-time. An HR rep from the Mill Chicago reached out to me and asked if I would be willing to work for the Mill. During the first go-around they found out that my visa was expiring soon, so they retracted the offer. A week later I saw through an old contact, Stephen Winters, an HR rep for the Mill NY, that they were hiring the same position. I DM’d him letting him know that I was interested. When I applied he vouched for me, and after three interviews, I got the job! This second time around, they looked a bit deeper into my visa situation and realized that I could extend it for another two years, so we’re good now.

Madison Caprara:

From eye-catching motion graphics to stylish designs and illustrations, your work is channeled in a variety of ways, yet still holds a pretty distinct style. How would you go about defining it?

Kristina Sharabinskaia:

My personal work explores redefining dimension. I like to play around with different scales of objects to reinforce the effect of a deformed reality. The end result is this surreal, imaginary dimension. I normally go about the process half-intuitively; I have an idea in my head of what I want to create and I vaguely sketch it out. After, I gather a lot of references based on the sketch and start drawing while copying aspects of my mood board. I then choose a style direction and use it as a guide for creating my artwork. In the end, I might apply some patterns, change the initial idea, or even evolve it into something else entirely. I often refer back to the color theory and the rules of composition. These make my decisions not so intuitive, but rather practical to reinforce the most interesting illustration that creates a new realm; bending rules of physics and logic, while still looking pleasing to the eye.

Madison Caprara:

You’re a recent university grad. Congratulations! How was your experience at SCAD?

Kristina Sharabinskaia:

Thanks! Tough question. I don’t know how much I can talk about it, but in a few words, it's a great school to connect, network, and find jobs. After all, the only reason I’m here in the epicenter of the motion graphic industry is because of SCAD's relationship with others within the creative world. They throw a career fair every year specifically for motion graphic students, so you can really network. There are so many cool resources, like a swimming pool, gym with real instructors, and even free late-night cabs from campus to your house. They host festivals where you meet celebrities and student shows exhibiting their works. SCAD definitely appeals to the masses.

There are, however, some downsides that you couldn’t imagine being there until you become a SCAD Bee. SCAD doesn't offer enough support for students. The student body has been asking for an increase in mental health services and altering tuition fees since the pandemic began. Other changes to be had are allowing plus-sized models to be cast in fashion shows, providing funding for student clubs, and softening absence rules. It just felt like the school didn’t necessarily do anything for students that didn’t benefit them cost-wise. Even when suicide rates skyrocketed, there was no change in the way SCAD handled the issue. Most of the university, if not all of it, is a big marketing scheme; a business, a modern-day “nonprofit” corporation. So by entering this academic community, you agree to be a part of the show.

With all of this being said, this money-hungry infrastructure benefits graduates. There are so many job opportunities and perks that come from this agreement after you have graduated from this nightmare. It’s a win that comes at the cost of students’ mental well-being, creative blocks, and countless sleepless nights.

Madison Caprara:

That’s disappointing to hear, and an issue many who have chosen the more “traditional” path of education are being forced to make peace with when the realization strikes that these large entities really don’t care about the individual.

Madison Caprara:

Now, do you have any tidbits of advice for students who may be thinking about entering the motion design world?

Kristina Sharabinskaia:

I feel like you really need to understand what it is about before entering it. Figure out what exactly you want to do as your job. Try to reach out to some people in the industry, invite them for a coffee, or even email them to ask questions. If they’re not busy, they will be happy to get back to you. Most of us professionals are happy to connect, even through email. But don’t frown if a person doesn’t get to you, I’m sure they feel bad for not doing so.

Madison Caprara:

If you had to choose one creative collaborator for an important project, who would you count on?

Kristina Sharabinskaia:

When I had initially started working at a Scholar, my guide from the start was Madison Ellis. She worked as an Art Director for my first Taco Bell project. Madison was incredibly positive and encouraging. She had also graduated from SCAD two years before I did. We hit it off right from the start. She is a talented director and her feedback helped to improve my work by miles. In the end, she would always ask if you were happy with your result. It really showed how much she would listen when solving creative problems together. I’ve never actually met her in person, but her memes would always crack me up and make my day!

Madison Caprara:

What do you believe are some of the benefits of working with colleagues as opposed to going at it alone?

Kristina Sharabinskaia:

Working with other creatives helps me keep myself accountable for meeting deadlines and the precision of my work. Processes like brainstorming and overcoming creative blocks as a team are easier as opposed to facing the struggle alone. Your capacity of work goes down when with colleagues because you're not made to wear multiple hats. So yeah, I love teamwork! It’s efficient, fun, and your opportunities to come up with ideas are expanded with multiple points of view.

Madison Caprara:

You’ve worked with some top-tier studios: Scholar, State Design, and as you said, you are currently working at The Mill. How have those experiences been for you?

Kristina Sharabinskaia:

Everything I have expected and, at the same time, very different. I had a good understanding that the motion industry had a certain structure of work: the advertising agency sends a script, then you pitch to the agency. If you win, you first would start with mood boards, gathering references, creating style frames, and sharing the overall vision of the project. After the client’s approval, you move to animation. Normally, designers would work almost simultaneously with animators and slowly connect all the pieces of the puzzle together. Art and creative directors oversee the project, share notes with the clients and the team while keeping everyone on schedule. This pretty much sums up the process.

Studios like to keep a similar routine and follow a similar creative process, despite the size of the company. So I found myself fitting into the routine easily. The transition began after I gained more experience with different studios. I found that people had a huge impact on the energy in the company. If there was a micromanaging producer, it would impact the speed of communication. If a creative director is stressed about the project, it would cause the whole team to be nervous too. It’s never really about business and money, but the time you get to know your colleagues as people, not employees. I learned to appreciate a good afternoon of laughter and discussion of new Netflix shows.

Madison Caprara:

That’s a great takeaway. Humans really are at the heart of every company.

Madison Caprara:

With your history of landing work at various reputable studios, what is your opinion on showreels vs. individual clips when landing a gig? In your experience, which should be prioritized?

Kristina Sharabinskaia:

I mean, you need both. I’ve gone to college fairs and other opportunities to land gigs with both ready to show, and STILL wouldn't end up nailing an internship. My friends did, though, in some instances. So, I’d say it’s helpful to have them, but they’re not a guarantee to magically find work. Sometimes all that matters is networking and knowing the right people to be the applicant who lands the job.

Madison Caprara:

Do you have an all-time favorite project that you have worked on?

Kristina Sharabinskaia:

I haven’t been in the industry for long enough to fall in love with a specific project, yet. Most of the time the ideas get so diversified and changed throughout, that you can barely take credit for your own input. I guess I have an idea for a perfect project where I would be an art director for the project, and so far those have been social media pieces for Instagram during my free time. If I had to pick a favorite, it would probably be an illustration for a podcast cover I did a year ago called “Empathy Bro”. I really liked it because the host of the podcast was a small business owner, and the process of working with her was more to the ground and personal. We would facetime each other, I’d film myself sketching ideas, and we’d brainstorm together.

Madison Caprara:

In your opinion, what are some of the current visual trends motion designers should be focusing on?

Kristina Sharabinskaia:

A mix of 2D and 3D has a certain appeal. The combination of the different stylistic approaches uplift art to be more unique, and being unique is always something people look out for when trying to find inspiration.

Madison Caprara:

What is your favorite thing about working in motion design? Are there any misconceptions that come with being a designer?

Kristina Sharabinskaia:

Yes. One thing in particular that I wasn’t necessarily surprised to find out was truthful but confirmed what I’ve heard before from many teachers and designers in motion. When you create something in a group of people, not all of your ideas get heard or even executed. Sometimes I would spend weeks designing characters for an environment, but in the end, the idea just ends up dusting away on a cloud. And sometimes it’s hard not to take it personally, but it’s work, there is always tomorrow.

Madison Caprara:

Where do you get inspiration from when creating this work?

Kristina Sharabinskaia:

Pinterest, mostly. And Netflix’s Arcane: League of Legends. But I intensively follow artists I like and get inspired by their work. A few of the great ones in motion design are Ori Toor, Sarah Beth Morgan, Rune Fisker...Their work is unified by bright colors and the appeal to animation, meaning their work looks like it could move.

My personal art style is just a repetition of other artists’ work. I pick the inspiration, mix, match, and imitate. In the end, it still comes out differently, even though almost none of my ideas are mine in the beginning. References rule!

Madison Caprara:

I love the self-awareness, Kristina! It’s really refreshing!

We’re reaching the end of our time together, unfortunately. Is there anything in particular that you would like to touch on before we go?

Kristina Sharabinskaia:

Yes! I’d like to end with a piece of wisdom for fresh talent. There is nothing wrong with promoting your work on social media. For me, my presence on socials has helped me to make a lot of friends in the industry as well as to find work and even be discovered. Marketing my Instagram and Behance, and posting projects on Linkedin played out very well for me. After all, I got my art on a beer can because of social media!

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Takeover Tuesday with Paulynka Hricovini

Q&A with Paulynka Hricovini, a French Art Director, 2D Animator, and Illustrator currently living in Brussels.

Q&A with Paulynka Hricovini
Read time: 5min

TOYBLOÏD • If You Dare • (Official Music Video), 2017. Paulynak Hricovini.

Madison Caprara:

Hi, Paulynka! How are you doing? Let’s kick off this chat with a bit of background on yourself and your work. How did you find yourself in the creative industry?

Paulynka Hricovini:

Hi, Madison! 2021 is over and I'm feeling pretty good. Thanks a lot for having me today! I’m Paula–aka Paulynka from my Slovak origins. I am a French Art Director, 2D Animator, and Illustrator currently living in the lovely waffle-fries-beer city that is Brussels. My current work is deeply imbued with subjects regarding old tales and legends, Paganism and international sacred rituals, humanity, and what is, overall way beyond us. I feel very fortunate to do what excites me every day!

As far back as I can remember, I've always loved drawing, telling stories, creating, building, and spending hours tinkering. Since my childhood, my parents–an art teacher and a scientist, in other words, the best creative duo–often took me out to exhibitions, shows, cinemas, and so on. Those experiences really opened my eyes to the creative world and all the possibilities it offered.

Madison Caprara:

What did your educational experience entail?

Paulynka Hricovini:

After high school, I moved to Belgium to study 2D animation at the ENSAV La Cambre in Brussels. During these five years of schooling, I was lucky to go on an Erasmus exchange to the UK. I spent one year abroad at the University of South Wales in Newport. It was my most exciting school year ever! After graduating, I jumped into the “real world” as a Freelance Animator and Illustrator.

Madison Caprara:

Right into freelance work after graduation! What thoughts went into that decision? Was there ever any push to join a studio?

Paulynka Hricovini:

Going freelance right after school looked like the best–and the only–option I had. One of my main reasons was to keep a healthy balance between professional work and personal creative projects, which is hardly the case when you have a full-time job. I also love having the freedom to organize my days as I see fit. I was already accustomed to working a lot on my own, and Brussels–at least at that time–wasn’t offering many appealing animation or creative studios in my opinion.

Paulynka Hricovini:

I won't lie, it was quite a challenge to build a network of professional contacts from scratch and to prove myself as an independent. Special thanks to my life partner for being a daily great supporter, advisor, and valuable helper from the very beginning. During the early years, I was able to develop my practice and knowledge through diverse creative projects for advertisements and music videos for various labels and agencies across Europe. I've also always enjoyed challenging myself and pushing my limits out of my comfort zone.

Madison Caprara:

How would you describe your work’s aesthetic? Do you find yourself gravitating towards a specific subject matter or “look”? Would you say it’s a reflection of your own personality?

Paulynka Hricovini:

I believe that what surrounds us every day is what goes into building our own unique style, or panel of recognizable styles. Just like everyone's handwriting is subtly different from one another's. Being born in France to Slovak parents, I have always been lulled by this double culture. As a child, we traveled a lot between the two countries–and across Europe as a whole. The time spent in the car, for reference, nearly 20 hours to go from France to Slovakia, allowed me to enjoy solitude; losing myself in the alternate realities a book could offer, spending countless hours doing nothing, doodling, listening to music, watching the amazing landscapes pass by. During that time, I would imagine many surreal stories of wandering giants on a journey to see friends. Meeting on their way other little creatures living in the hidden wilderness.

There are definitely a lot of these elements present in my current work. From the strong nature presence to the characters coming from various tales or legends. The patterns and the overall Slavic/Nordic culture. Today, combining my passion for traveling, photography, and drawing, I try to breathe life into illustrated characters. I try as much as possible to go for visuals and jobs that have meaning to me. Jobs that I share values with. I like to take long periods of experimentation and exploring, acting on my creative impulse. Time to follow my curiosity and intuition, letting my inner flow speak for itself. I strongly believe that the more we explore our inner wilderness, the more we are able to articulate the language and uniqueness of our subconscious.

Madison Caprara:

Your childhood sounds like a fairytale. I love the way you go about describing your inner “wilderness” and its importance to your creative process. One of my 2022 intentions is to romanticize everyday life more, so that really resonates with me.

Now, tell me about Framekit! What was the impetus behind starting your own studio? How did you and Anthony find yourselves making that decision?

Paulynka Hricovini:

Anthony and I met during our early school years at La Cambre. We left on the Erasmus exchange and started working together at that time. We were on the same wavelength, and the idea of building a studio came about quite naturally. After our graduation, we both wanted to individually experience freelance life to gain more skills. In 2015, we officially launched our creative collective, Framekit Studio. We worked together on many exciting projects for almost three years.

Then, life slowly and naturally oriented us on different paths. Anthony launched a studio with Agnes–Agnes&Anthony. Together they create beautiful, poetic paper models. On my side, I was eager to experience a position within a larger company. I wanted to add another string to my bow, discover a new working environment, and further refine my skills.

DAVODKA • Sama • (Official Music Video), 2020. Paulynak Hricovini.

Madison Caprara:

What have been some of the biggest lessons learned while running the studio together? Any suggestions for those who may be thinking about starting their own?

Paulynka Hricovini:

While running a studio, or even freelancing, there’s the constant pressure to do more. Sometimes it can be hard to “switch off” from work. It’s important to not get stuck. Remember there are other aspects of life to be enjoyed. You want to have a good balance between work and rest. This also allows your mind to fly to new inspirations. Of course, not every day is rosy and wonderful, whether you’re working alone or with ten people, but it is well worth it. I would say the most important reminders are to keep a good work-life balance, to define the studio organization (the tasks and income split), and, especially when it comes to creatives with the same skillsets, to put your ego on the back burner.

Collaborating with a friend and being a part of my own creative studio has been a very positive experience from an artistic AND human perspective. We’ve both learned a lot from working together. Do you see me coming with the, “Alone we go faster, together we go further” spiel? Breaking news…it's actually true! Looking at a brief or a problem with two brains–different backgrounds, complementary technical and artistic skills–helps to be more efficient. Creativity-wise, you can get crazier, more surprising, and more imaginative outcomes. The brainstorming moments can sometimes be more effective than a meditation session. Either way, go for it and remember to enjoy yourself!

Madison Caprara:

You eventually continued your career at Volstok, correct? How was the transition process for you?

Paulynka Hricovini:

Correct! As I said earlier, after Framekit I was eager to experience a full-time position in a creative studio. Volstok came at the best time, thus the transition was pretty smooth. Working under the direction of skillful creatives who had an extended background in the industry and more experience working on larger projects taught me a lot about efficiency, self and team discipline, time organization, creative idea development, and so much more. I’ve spent two highly rewarding years, both creatively and professionally, with a pretty talented, badass team.

Madison Caprara:

What was your favorite project you worked on while on the Volstok team?

Paulynka Hricovini:

It's going to be hard to point to only one!

On a larger scale, the AS Adventure project was very exciting to build and achieve. It was a long process that we really combined forces for. Another is the Davodka project–a video clip made for a french rap artist. It took us almost a year to complete while juggling other projects. During our spare time, between two renders as it's said, we would come up with quick and simple creative ideas to be developed as passion projects. It was a nice way to keep our creative minds engaged while working on some more corporate projects.

Madison Caprara:

You’ve dabbled in a lot! Having worked as a freelancer, under the studio umbrella, as well as owning your own, what has been the most rewarding and beneficial for the growth of your career and person? Do you favor any of the three stages over the others?

Paulynka Hricovini:

Well, “a smooth sea never made a skilled sailor,” right? So posh! Borrowed from F.D. Roosevelt.

There is no stage more important than the other. It is precisely the combination of all these experiences that allow me today to do what I do on a daily basis, and in a completely free and independent way. If I had to do it again, I would do everything the same. If I hadn't experienced freelance life in the beginning, and all of the obstacles that come with it, I probably wouldn't have had as much confidence in starting a studio. If I hadn’t had these two combined experiences, I clearly wouldn't have dared to show up to a studio such as Volstok. And without such professional development at Volstok, I wouldn’t have had the chance to work on the projects I lead today.

E.RIOTS.IH, 2016. Paulynak Hricovini.

Paulynka Hricovini:

Thanks to all of these steps, today I feel comfortable and very very lucky to do what I love. To do what makes me laugh and what makes the most sense for me. The nice part of getting back to freelancing is the freedom of creativity and the ability to choose the projects I want to work on–those which really echo with my values and style. Likewise, the variety of commissions makes an illustrator's and animator’s life very exciting. I often juggle between multiple diverse commissions at once and it is their differences that make them so enjoyable. It's always challenging and you never get bored.

Madison Caprara:

Currently, you are a member of the L’Enroule community in Brussels. I recently had the pleasure of speaking to Fabien Rousseau! How has it been treating you? Was the decision to join at all influenced by the isolation of the pandemic?

Paulynka Hricovini:

Joining l’Enroule was actually not linked to the pandemic, but it makes it cozier to be surrounded by such a community during these past two weird years. Fabien, who launched this group of creative folks, contacted me while I jumped back into freelance life after Volstok. I was first looking to share a common workspace with other creative minds and TA-DA, it's morphin' time! Today we're a nine freelancer workshop; a beautiful bunch of crazy talented artists all coming from different fields, sharing the same studio, laughing at the same rubbish jokes, benefiting from the mutual experience, and sometimes collaborating with each other. I feel so lucky to be a part of this family.

Madison Caprara:

That’s such a wonderful support system to have!

Where do you go for inspiration when you find yourself in a bit of a creative rut?

Paulynka Hricovini:

Going outside, taking a walk in nature, meeting friends and new people, traveling when possible, immersing myself in culture and history, reading, listening to music (a lot, really a lot) going to exhibitions, watching movies, doing nothing, just letting the mind wander or witnessing something different–mainly from other artistic crafts and scientific disciplines. In short, from what's basically happening in the outside world! I also try to stay further away from a screen. It clears the brain.

And, as said previously, my current work is quite inhabited by ancient myths and stories. I find so much inspiration in the beautiful cultures, costumes, and traditions of tribes captured by the great Charles Fréger, Chris Rainier, Jimmy Nelson, and so many more photographers. These costumes appear in rituals and religious festivals all around the world. They have deep ancestral relationships with nature and, in my opinion, have the power to shed light and reconnect us to today's world.

Madison Caprara:

Well, this was such a great conversation, Paulynka! I’m really happy you allowed me the opportunity to learn a bit more about your experience. Before we wrap it up, is there anything else you would like to share or end this interview with?

Paulynka Hricovini:

Let's go for some good reminders. This will probably get cheesy at some points:

Surround yourself with talented, inspiring, and kind people, in both your professional and personal lives.
Be curious about everything and everyone that surrounds you. It’s essential in growing a well-built, open, and critical mind.
Work hard, but don’t blame yourself for procrastinating sometimes. Listen to the inner voice asking for breaks when you need them. It will boost your energy and inspiration.
Be patient, things will come along.

Paulynka Hricovini:

As a creative person, you will have moments in life when you compare your work to others and end up feeling inferior. An important skill is to be able to admire the work of other people work without doubting your own abilities. There are so many great artists out there, it can be daunting to pursue a career in such a competitive market. But hey, we’re humans, after all! We all have insecurities and days when we feel like we don't do good enough. It takes a lifetime to learn and be confident.

Thanks again, Madison, and to the whole dash team, for this nice chat. That's all, folks!

SHOWREEL 2018, 2018. Paulynak Hricovini.

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Takeover Tuesday with Fabien Rousseau

Q&A with Fabien Rousseau, an Illustrator and Animator currently living in Brussels, with a design and code background.

Q&A with Fabien Rousseau
Read time: 8min

MDS Motion Pro Trailer - Shot 5 Final. Fabien Rousseau.

Madison Caprara:

Hi, Fabien! Why don’t you start us off with a little introduction to yourself?

Fabien Rousseau:

Hi, thank you so much for having me! I’m Fabien Rousseau, a French Animator currently living in Brussels, Belgium—you know, the tiny country with two official languages, double-fried fries, and beers twice as strong as normal. I love goofy characters, colorful art, and things I don’t understand. I feel lucky to do what I am doing every day, and I try to be an active player in our community.

Madison Caprara:

Double-fried fries AND freakishly strong beer. Sounds like my type of place.

How did you originally find yourself within the creative field? When did you know this was something you wanted to pursue professionally?

Fabien Rousseau:

I guess the drive for creation came pretty early. I was not drawing that much as a kid, but I remember building giant robots out of paper toilet tubes, cardboard, and glue. I forced my parents to keep my creations in their bedroom as my own personal exhibition. I was so obsessed with tape that they had to hide it from me—I still think it’s one of the best inventions ever.

Later on, I became a bass player and the composer of my 8-members ska teenager band. Being able to express our lefty propaganda through art was a blast, and seeing people shaking their butts to my music was a killer achievement. That was the first time I had felt the effervescence of a team, and what we could achieve with symbiosis and dedication. This career sadly ended when I broke my cello on stage cause I was wearing fins and a diving suit.

Fabien Rousseau:

Eventually, I landed in a Graphic Design study and rapidly understood that illustration was the thing I was most excited about. After school, I was digging interactive design so I started to work as a freelance UX Designer/Web Developer. I loved learning to code and at the same time, I was putting more and more motion into it.

I learned illustration and animation in my free time, with tutorials, practice, and any advice I could get. I always thought of animation as an unreachable job I couldn’t even dream of because my drawing skills weren’t great. But as soon I succeeded in making my first frame loop, I knew I would do everything to make it my daily activity. It has only been three years that I have been working as an animator, it’s a step-by-step journey.

Madison Caprara:

Now, how would you describe your style to those who may be unfamiliar?

Fabien Rousseau:

Dang, already one of the most difficult questions! I’ve always done many different things, and I don't have a proper signature style like many illustrators I admire. Though I can say I have recurring themes as they’re most often character-driven and related to music. I love playing with loops, shapes, bright colors, silly moves, smoothness, and... yeah, bouncy tings (mostly butts)!

The truth is, I get bored way too fast. I enjoy changing my approach on every project, and style is a part of it. I have buddies working on animated featured films and I’m amazed by their ability to stick to the same project or role for months—or even years. I already feel washed out if I have to do the same thing for more than one week.

Madison Caprara:

Fair! I myself find it extremely difficult to focus on the same task for weeks on end. It’s something I’m so impressed by when I see the dash staff working on a project for (what feels like) months at a time.

Madison Caprara:

If you had to narrow down your “specialty,” what would it be?

Fabien Rousseau:

My specialty is...being a generalist. Wait! What I’m trying to say is that with my different skills, I’ve become pretty good at problem-solving—I know it sounds extremely LinkedIn-y, but bear with me.

I often make unexpected connections, find new ways, workarounds, or hacks to achieve a goal. I feel like I’m closing the gap between a developer's and designer’s minds. That’s why I’m not putting up a lot of barriers when I want to create something new. Having an idea that may seem out of hand in the first place, really may just need to be deconstructed into smaller pieces. I embrace the feeling of being lost and go for it; doing loads of research and “trusting the process.” In the end, I try to make discomfort a cozy place.

That being said, I am more specialized than I was a few years ago. It’s hard to stay a decent designer when you spend most of your time animating. My illustrator friends are now way too good so I’m just happy they let me animate their work, but I’m still trying to do solo personal projects. It’s only a matter of balance, I guess.

Madison Caprara:

Moving on to your career, what do you see as being your first “big break” in the industry?

Fabien Rousseau:

I guess it would be that dumb walking pigeon (and I see dumb as a compliment). It might sound silly because it’s such a small loop and just a couple of days of work, but the response was so unexpected. It’s amazing that many people have actually seen it! I even got to teach an online course about it, and I still see hilarious versions popping on my IG feed.

Madison Caprara:

I love that! Other than the pigeon, what is your favorite work you have ever created or been a part of?

Fabien Rousseau:

It would be our Bee Jizz collab with my talented friend Xerxes Heirman. It was the first time I was directing an ambitious video like this. It’s a blend between cel animation, classic AE, expression rigs, and creative technology. I wanted a convincing risograph look, and that led to a lot of cool researches.

It was supposed to be a bigger piece about self-expectation, dopamine, and anxiety, but in the end, we only did the trailer. What a twist! Sometimes you have to let it go and release it, which was actually a good ending considering the thematics.

Bee Jizz (Teaser), 2020. Direction, Animation, Design | Fabien Rousseau, Illustration | Xerxes Heirman.

Madison Caprara:

That’s such a fun piece!

You are currently freelance, correct? What did that journey like for you? Have you ever worked for an overarching company or studio?

Fabien Rousseau:

I’ve always been freelance, straight from school! Boy, it was not an easy ride. I think my work is so bonded to my mental health that I never could work on a “bread-and-butter” job without being completely depressed. That means having only a few paid gigs and tough months for a pretty long time. I’m aware that’s still a big privilege, so I find myself very lucky to spend the majority of my work in fulfilling jobs.

And I’m doing better now! I worked on an awesome 12-month project with my buddy, Renaud Lavency, in 2020 (too bad it’s under NDA). It’s been a year since I started working with studios that I admire; Buck and Oddfellows. A blast so far! I’m closer than ever to trying an in-house experience. I know I will learn a lot doing so.

Madison Caprara:

That’s amazing, congrats on your success!

Is freelancing something you would recommend doing at least once for all creatives?

Fabien Rousseau:

I’m always the first to recommend people quitting their job if they feel unhappy. Elise Leonard who got me this interview (thank you Elise!) can bear witness to this. But I know freelancing can be very stressful for a ton of reasons. You can run a self-employed business with thousands of different approaches. Everyone is different. And let’s not forget it’s not an equal status in every country.

Madison Caprara:

Are there any current trends that are changing the nature of your role? How do you feel about them?

Fabien Rousseau:

I see you coming with the NFT talk! It’s definitely changing how artists embody their personal work, and that’s great for some of us. But the biggest change for me has been the dawn of remote work within the last two years. The workload increased and studios have been more likely to hire freelancers from around the world.

That also leads to new forms of workspaces. I’m part of a freelancer’s workshop—let’s call it “palancing”—which is basically sharing a studio with my buddies. We currently have nine people working in different fields such as commercial animation, illustration, design, print, photo, animated feature films…Even if we don’t work on the same projects, I share so many things with these guys. We live together as a big family, and I spend more time in our workspace than at my own place.

Madison Caprara:

It’s so great to have that professional support system to lean on, doubly so if you all are genuinely friends!

What about tools? They’re constantly evolving within this industry. With these developments, how do you see the role of animator/illustrator subsequently evolving?

Fabien Rousseau:

Yes, tools! I love them for what they are: bridges between mind and craft. You can cross a river with different bridges and have different results, but what matters is that you’re on the other side.

I fancy procedural and computer-generated thingies. Sometimes I prefer trying to automate a task with code rather than doing it by hand, even if that sometimes takes longer. I do this because I hate doing the same thing twice, and I will have learned something in the process. Also, generated art sometimes produces more natural results than the human eye.

On the other end of the spectrum, learning cel animation is teaching me to trust. It doesn’t rely on tools, you need only very basic apps to get started. It’s soothing to “know” things for real, as some rules were described decades or centuries ago and they are still relevant. I love the fact that you can hone a craft and time or technology have a minor effect on it.

Wave IQ - Tookie Tookie Pt. 2 - Visualizer, 2020. Fabien Rousseau.

Madison Caprara:

What would you say is your biggest accomplishment, and on the flip side, your biggest regret?

Fabien Rousseau:

Three years ago I was working at home, and I didn’t have a lot of friends. My weeks were sometimes gloomy and it felt as if it wasn’t going anywhere. I started to reach out to folks that were living in Brussels, from whom I loved their work. We met, and a few weeks later I was organizing meetup nights that were open to a broader audience of creatives. This is how L’Enroule was born! From there, we’ve created an intertwined process of relationships and projects. A big part of my life now has unfolded from this decision.

I only have small regrets, which is nice! The first is that I never really had a mentor. Thankfully, animation is one of the friendliest communities. We’re always keen on helping each other. The second has to do with unreleased, unfinished, or NDA-barred projects, but I’ve learned my lessons.

Madison Caprara:

Where do you go for inspiration when you find yourself in a creative rut?

Fabien Rousseau:

For a long time, I had told myself that my stories weren’t worth telling. Now, I put away my logic and focus on emotion. It feels more natural. Once I get this flow going, ideas seem to come together pretty magically. I have a very (very) long list of pending projects waiting to be tackled.

The downside is that I am more likely to overwork myself. While I’m conscious of it, it’s still a big unhealthy habit I’m trying to cut. When I feel burned out I usually let other senses take over. I enjoy cooking a lot because taste and smell take up different energy. It’s really refreshing. I also love gardening, especially growing stuff to eat, and tinkering in my small woodworking shop.

I’m convinced that I won’t be animating forever. I'm 31 and already feel like an old guy in this job. I like the idea of leaving the "industry" before becoming that grumpy dude in the corner of the room. I’d probably prefer to fill people’s bellies when the time comes. The question is if I become a chef, will I be a specialist or a generalist?

Madison Caprara:

I love that for you! I’ve had my own pipedream of opening a bakery one day.

We’re reaching the end of our time together, Fabien. Before we wrap up, is there anything you would like to end on?

Fabien Rousseau:

The last few years have been rough for a lot of folks, especially on the social side. I’m a fervent advocate of surrounding yourself with friends at work. Remember, butts are fun because they come with two cheeks. We don’t have to be alone in this. Have fun, cherish your community, and let’s build a world of happy palancers!

Showreel Summer, 2020. Fabien Rousseau.